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    [1000] Ulthwe

    im tired of beil tan so i wanted to make a ultwe list. heeer goes

    HQ:

    Seer Council-202pts.
    Farseer- singing spear, mind war
    Farseer- singing spear, fortune
    warlock- enhance, sp, cc
    warlock- destructor, sp, cc
    warlock- augment, sp, cc
    Wave Serpent- spirit stones, starcannon-135
    Troops:

    13 black guardians-187
    warlock- conceal, sp, cc
    starcannon platform

    15 black guardians-153
    warlock- conceal, sp, cc


    Heavy Support:

    Wraithlord-120
    brightlance
    2x flamers

    falcon-190
    starcannon
    holo field
    spirit stones

    i need some good feedback on this one from some experienced ulthwe players to see if i am on the right track.

    the wave serpent with the seer council is just for more shooting, not for transporting the council. i might use vypers but i dont have the models.
    questions:
    1. is the seer council good?
    2. should i use 2 starcannon vypers instead of the wave serpent?
    3. do i have enough guardians?

    When you combine Speed and Power you get Lightning.

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    um.....your seer council is 5 figures...why not fit it into your falcon and save 135 points?

    you'll waste 5 seats in your wave serpant when a falcon holds up to 6 figures.

    use the extra points to bring both black guardian squads to 15 strong, both with star cannons or bright lances and use the rest of the points in the seer council and a vyper with a star cannon.


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    as i said katalyst the serpent is for a extra starcannon, not for transporting the council. if i wanted to transport the coucil i would use the falcon. and if i had the models i would probably use vypers instead of the wave serpent.
    When you combine Speed and Power you get Lightning.

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    I like the idea of using the WS as a support vehicle, but not the´way you place heavy weapons. Lets have a look at how you get the most hits with your starcannons:

    Hits/round:
    2 vypers = 0.5 x 3 = 1.5 x 2 = 3 hits/round
    serpent = 0.75 x 3 = 2,25 hits/round
    wraithlord = 0,67 x 3 = 2 hits/round

    See? Vypers would be the most effective, IF you wanted to use starcannons only. I would place bright lances on the WS, since single shot weapons make far better use of twin-linking than multishot weapons. I would then place a starcannon on the wraithlord, since its BS will provide almost as many hits as the TL starcannons on the serpent.

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    errmm how did you come up with the formula to do dat..?
    vampire counts = magic and black knights wrong!

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    Ahem..

    Chance to hit = ((6-BS)/6), *1,(6-BS)/6) if TL. Do you see the logic?
    Last edited by Sareld; February 24th, 2006 at 15:31.

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    Ooops, double post. Mods, please delete.
    Last edited by Sareld; February 23rd, 2006 at 19:07.

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    is this a n ulthwe strike force and if so you can't use wraithlords ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningGus 3
    as i said katalyst the serpent is for a extra starcannon, not for transporting the council. if i wanted to transport the coucil i would use the falcon. and if i had the models i would probably use vypers instead of the wave serpent.

    Or you can use the points to buy a Wraithlord who won't be killed easily by small arms fire o.O


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