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    [1500] Tyranid (HiveFleet: Indignation)

    Finally got all my models assembled and ready and put together a list I am happy with. Wondering what you all think of it, advice wanted. Thanks ahead of time. -DAX

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    Hive Tyrant - Acid Maw, Adrenal Glands (WS, I), Toxin Sacs, Winged, Horror, Warp Field, Scything Talons x2 = 207

    Brood Lord - Acid Maw, Extended Carapace, Implant Attack, Toxin Sacs = 114
    8 Genestealers (Retinue) - Extended Carapace, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons = 216

    Elites
    3x Warriors - Extended Carapace, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs, Venom Cannon, 2x Deathspitter, Scything Talons x3 = 118

    Fast Attack
    3x Warriors - Adrenal Glands (WS, I), Toxin Sacs, Winged, Rending Claws x3, Scything Talons x3 = 138

    Troops
    12x Termagants - Fleshborer = 72
    12x Termagants - Fleshborer = 72
    12x Hormagaunts - Toxin Sacs, Adrenals Glands (WS, I) = 168
    12x Hormagaunts - Toxin Sacs, Adrenals Glands (WS, I) = 168
    3x Ripper Swarms - Leaping = 42

    Heavy Support
    Carnifex - Bio-Plasma, Bonded Exoskeleton, Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Reinforced Chitin, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon - 216

    Total Models = 68
    Total Points = 1531

    For a shooty fex you think this guy is too tooled up? Also I know my Hormagaunts are point heavy, but for some reason I think I should keep em like that just because I play against marines often.


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    Hive Tyrant - Acid Maw, Adrenal Glands (WS, I), Toxin Sacs, Winged, Horror, Warp Field, Scything Talons x2 = 207
    Looks good, a classic.

    Brood Lord - Acid Maw, Extended Carapace, Implant Attack, Toxin Sacs = 114
    8 Genestealers (Retinue) - Extended Carapace, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons = 216
    Can the BL have acid maw and implant? And drop the sacs on the stealers, it's pointless. Rending will kill alot, especially with ST. And you'll find that the retinue usually dies before they see combat

    [QUOTE]
    Elites
    3x Warriors - Extended Carapace, Enhanced Senses, Toxin Sacs, Venom Cannon, 2x Deathspitter, Scything Talons x3 = 118
    Fast Attack
    3x Warriors - Adrenal Glands (WS, I), Toxin Sacs, Winged, Rending Claws x3, Scything Talons x3 = 138
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    Again, good and classic. Tried and True

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    12x Termagants - Fleshborer = 72
    12x Termagants - Fleshborer = 72
    12x Hormagaunts - Toxin Sacs, Adrenals Glands (WS, I) = 168
    12x Hormagaunts - Toxin Sacs, Adrenals Glands (WS, I) = 168
    3x Ripper Swarms - Leaping = 42
    Pretty good, although you should split the horms into 3 squad of 8 to make them more survivable.

    Heavy Support
    Carnifex - Bio-Plasma, Bonded Exoskeleton, Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Reinforced Chitin, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon - 216
    Rather large point sink. I'd drop the plasma because the way you've equiped him, it doesn't look like he's going to see combat.

    The lack of sacs on the stealers and take out a termagaunt or 2 should drop your list to 1500. 1531 is too much over the limit.


    *Note, all of the above statements are my own opinon of an effective hive fleet. It comes from experience. They are IN NO WAY the only truth and there are plenty of other options out there for you to choose from.
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    Barbed strangler and Venom cannon are stoopid; either get rid of the barbed strangler and get scything talons or get rid of the venom cannon and get TL deathspitters.

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    Dropped the sacs off the stealers and the bioplasma from the fex. Didnt realize that you could only take one of the morphs for the BL (feeders, implant, or acid) so I dropped the the acid maw in favor of a character hunter with the implant. Thanks for the advice. Dropped my points down to 1487.

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    take that extra 13 points and put it into either another gaunt (can't hurt right?) or Tox Mi for the tyrant JUST IN CASE you go up against WS 6 models. Personally, i'd go for the gaunt.
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    @ DarkAngelX

    What are you facing alot of?
    Missiles and IG Ordnance, or las/plas?


    The 2+ save and T7 is nice, but expensive.
    If your running into alot of Plasma/Lascannon/Melta, that 2+ save isnt going to do anything. Nice against missiles, and a bit better agaisnt Autocannons and Hvy Bolters of course

    Further, against Meltas, Plasma and Lascannon, wounding T7 is only slightly harder then T6
    (melta: 3+ vs 2+, Lascannon is 2+ regardless, Plasma is 4+ vs 3+)

    Does it help, YEAH!
    But is it worth it?



    If you have alot of time, and you want a good insight into Carnifexs.. did I mention alot of time?
    read:

    http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakka/Defa...g=posts&t=8466








    Quote Originally Posted by SlickWilley
    Barbed strangler and Venom cannon are stoopid; either get rid of the barbed strangler and get scything talons or get rid of the venom cannon and get TL deathspitters.

    The BS (being str 8 ) AND a VC (str 10) means he has a decent chance at popping a tank from range.
    Its not the best such unit in 40k, but its the best ranged AV killer 'Nid can get.


    The Str8 isnt going to stop AV14 very often, but it will do pretty well against AV 12 and down.

    The Str8 BS will also be able to Penetrate armour, something the VC cannot.
    Landspeeders with their Multimeltas can be a problem for tyrants and fexs, a volley at them from a VC and BS carrying Fex will put them out within a few turns.

    Being a pieplate, there is also the chance it will hit other models near by.
    like troops cowering behind armour, squads of Ork Kans or Speeders, tanks too close together, etc...


    Along with a VC, a Str8 BS a fine AV killer for a shooty Fex.



    If you like your Fex moving forward (ie, CC fex with VC), fine.
    But dont condemn a purely Shooty fex just because you dont like it.
    Last edited by Zarathustra; August 5th, 2005 at 13:33.

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    I mainly play against marine armies, so plasma, las, and missiles all come my way.

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