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    Dark Eldar 1k

    My first attempt at a Dark Eldar list in any way shape and form, so C&C most welcome so you can point me in the right direction.
    My only fear is that I overspent on the Dracon.
    Be as harsh as you like:

    ++HQ++
    Dracon 150pts
    >Agoniser
    >Splinter pistol
    >Hell Mask
    >Combat Drugs
    >Reaver Jetbike
    >Shadow field
    >Haywire grenades

    ++Elites++
    Wych squad 268pts
    Wych Succubus
    >Wych weapons
    >Agoniser
    >Hell mask
    >Combat drugs
    >Splinter pistol
    9 Wyches w/Wych weapons, splinter pistol, CCW
    Raider w/Disintergrator, Night Jets, Scaling nets

    ++Troops++
    Warrior squad 100pts
    8 Warriors w/Splinter rifles
    2 Warriors w/Dark lances

    Warrior squad 100pts
    8 Warriors w/Splinter rifles
    2 Warriors w/Dark lances

    ++Fast attack++
    Reaver Jetbike squad 246pts
    Reaver Succubus w/Agonizer, Jetbike
    7 Jetbikes w/Jetbikes, Splinter pistol
    1 Jetbike w/Jetbike [blaster], splinter pistol

    ++Heavy support++
    Ravager 130pts
    1 Dark Lance 2 Disintegrators
    Night Sheilds

    Feel free to rip it up and toss it round the room.
    One of my thoughts was dropping the drugs on the Wych Succubus for another Jetbike, Also unsure of the use of scaling nets.
    Anyway C&C appreciated
    ttfn

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    HQs.
    SP will not get you the extra attack on the RJB. You need to add a torm helm for that. Dracon isn't that bad the way you have her equipped.

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    Drop the CD and Hell mask from the Succubus. She can't be picked out in HtH so it isn't worth the points. CDs are also a waste as you don't want to risk more than 1 die roll on a 1 wound character. If she ODs you loose the major killing weapon in the squad. She also won't get the effect the squad rolls, so if you luck out and get 12" assault, you'll need 1 drug option just to keep up.

    Add PGs. Wyches have a high initiative. If your opponent is smart he'll be in cover making you go last when you assault. Bad move...even with an Invulnerable save. Why take the chance that you'll fail some of them when PGs are so cheap?

    Night shield or Screaming Jets? Either way drop it. You need to get the Raider close to assault so NS is a waste. With the jets, you can't assault the turn you Deep strike and the Raider will go down. Scaling nets not really worth it. You can shave off some points here.

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    1/4 of your points in 8 minis. I'd seriously look at reducing the size of this squad to 4 maybe 5 with 2 blasters, drop the succubus and send them tank/dread hunting. Seems your plan is for them to accompany your Lord but I'd save this tactic for higher point games. Just my opinion.

    Just an observation I've made over the years. With DE if you can keep the average point cost per mini to around 20 you stand a greater chance of success in a game. Right now you are at 25. 40 minis at 1000 points = 25
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    I'd personally say take the combat drugs off of the succubus (she's not valuable enough in my opinion to have such expensive wargear). The wych squad i commonly run has a succubus with an agonizer, and then 9 wyches with wych weapons in a raider. My favorite thing about it is that it runs at exactly 200 points, making it easier to form up a list quickly.

    i'd just leave a regular dark lance on the raider, and give the ravager 3 disintegrators (that way you dont have a wasted lance shot, or worse yet two wasted disintegrator shots.

    Night shield is not a bad choice. Its great for the first turn of the game if you end up going second, and it forces your opponent to be within 6 inches to rapid fire into your raiders, thus reducing the ammount of shots you'll probably be taking. The shield probably is not necessary in such a small game though (i usually only put in on my HQ raider and SOMETIMES on my ravagers)
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    Ok, I have taken your advice into consideration and have made the following amendments to the list.

    ++HQ++
    Dracon 149
    >Agoniser
    >Tormentor helm
    >Reaver Jetbike
    >Combat drugs
    >Shadow field
    >Haywire nades

    ++Elites++
    Wych squad 213
    Wych Succubus
    >Agoniser
    >Wych weapons
    >Splinter pistol
    9 Wyches w/Wych weapons, ccw, splinter pistol
    Raider w/Dark Lance

    ++Troops++
    Warrior squad 100
    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    ++Fast attack++
    Reaver Jetbike squad 201
    Succubus
    w/agoniser, tormentor helm
    4 Jetbikes w/splinter pistols
    2 Jetbikes w/blaster, splinter pistol

    ++Heavy Support++
    Ravager 140
    w/3 Disintegrators
    Night Sheild

    Talos 100

    There is my second draft of the list.
    I'd also like to run a couple of things past you.
    using war dancers as Wyches?
    any ideas, I think they might work quite well
    any thoughts
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    the talos will be left so far behind in this very fast force, i´d go with more Reavers or another Ravager insted.

    the rest looks quite solid imo.
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    Also, get a power weapon for your lord. As the agoniser strikes with the strength of your targets toughness, and that the reaver jetbike adds one to your S and that he has drugs, your lord is actually worse of with the agoniser against T3 and T4 than he would be with a p-weapon, and the agoniser and the p-weapon ties at T5. Not before T6 does the agoniser do more damage than the p-weapon.

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    last time I checked an Agoniser always wounds on a 4+ (or better if possible) not with a S equal to the victims T.
    it also also glances on a 6 always. for only 5.
    Anyways on too Dark Eldar 1k v3

    ++HQ++
    Dracon 149
    >Agoniser
    >Tormentor helm
    >Reaver Jetbike
    >Combat drugs
    >Shadow field
    >Hell Mask
    >Gruesome Talismans

    ++Elites++
    Wych squad 200
    Wych Succubus
    >Agoniser
    >Wych weapons
    >Splinter pistol
    8 Wyches w/Wych weapons, ccw, splinter pistol
    Raider w/Dark Lance

    ++Troops++
    Warrior squad 100
    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    ++Fast attack++
    Reaver Jetbike squad 201
    Succubus
    w/agoniser, tormentor helm
    4 Jetbikes w/splinter pistols
    2 Jetbikes w/blaster, splinter pistol

    ++Heavy Support++
    Ravager 140
    w/3 Disintegrators
    Night Sheild

    Ravager 105
    w/3 Dark Lances

    Anyway, anymore C&C would be welcomed with open and accepting arms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Fist
    last time I checked an Agoniser always wounds on a 4+ (or better if possible) not with a S equal to the victims T.
    Nope, not better if possible, the agniser always wound on a 4+, which is basically the same thing as S = target T. So unless your lord are made to stomp MCs to death, a punisher is better.

    Of course a punisger cant glance tanks, but your lord shouldnt assault tanks anyway.

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    Sorry to drag this out but I have had a fresh idea. I have altered the list, removing the reavers/dracon combo and replacing them with a dracon w/retinue in raider.

    ++HQ++
    Dracon 106(326)
    >Agoniser
    >Splinter Pistol
    >Drugs
    >Shadow field

    Retinue
    4 Incubi
    3 Warriors w/splinter rifle
    2 warriors w/splinter cannon
    Raider w/Dark Lance

    ++Elites++
    Wych squad 200
    Wych Succubus
    >Agoniser
    >Wych weapons
    >Splinter pistol
    8 Wyches w/Wych weapons, ccw, splinter pistol
    Raider w/Dark Lance

    ++Troops++
    Warrior squad 100
    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    8 warriors w/splinter rifles
    2 warriors w/Dark Lances

    ++Heavy Support++
    Ravager 140
    w/3 Disintegrators
    Night Sheild

    Ravager 105
    w/3 Dark Lances

    Now the question is, which do you think will be more effective list
    A) The biker list
    The list above with which I have yet to come up with a name

    C&C always welcome,
    thanks in advance
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    looking very good now i think! hell, its nearly the same army i use bar the wyches.

    i think this one is a winner(could be anyways ) :yes:
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