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    need help tau 1500 pts

    HQ- shas'el,multi tracker, misslepod,burstcannon,shield generator

    Elite-4stealth suits, shas'vre, bonded=110(xv15)

    Troops-12 fire warriors, bonded, shas' ui, devil fish, decoy launcher,multi tracker, 1 seeker missle=245
    12 fire warriors, bonded, shas'ui, devil fish, multi tracker, decoy launcher, 1 seeker missle
    =245
    16 kroot=133

    Fast attack-8 path finders, bonded, shas' ui, 2 rail rifles, devil fish, multi tracker, decoy launcher, 2 seeker missles=246

    heavy-hammer head, rail gun, burst cannon, multi tracker, decoy launcher, disruption pod=170
    hammer head, rail gun, burst cannon, multi tracker, decoy launcher, disruption pod=170

    this is my first list playing tau
    i am going to have a few practice games with it
    but i need it to be a good all around army
    thanx
    (sorry i posted this in the tau section as well i did not notice this section)
    thanx for the help


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    Popes --

    Real quickly if you would like this to be a good all around list I see you will have problems with armor. Even with your Pathfinders to help with BS, you only have 2 shots a turn from this list that are above S7. And more importantly, beyond 2 shots at S7 (MP's on your Shas'El) everything else is Pulse weaponry or less.

    This list will have a some critical challenges against a mechanized foe (mech eldar for instance) or one with a good number of Monstrous Creatures (Nids - <<shudder>>).

    How do you currently see your Shas'El operating? As an IC without any other Crisis in the list he won't have alot of support, and if he is accompanying the Stealths you could be hamstringing them in forfeiting their Infiltrate abilities.

    I might suggest trying to get a Monat or 2-Man crisis unit in there (with an MPod/PRifle config) and change one of your 'Heads over to Ion Cannon. Even though the S7 weaponry is useless against AV14 vehicles, the additional volume of fire against light-medium vehicles can be surprisingly effective. By making this simple swap you will have a total of 9 S7 hits per turn all with 36-60" range and more people for your Pathfinders to help with their shooting. Also, the Ion/Rail swap will practically pay for a new Monat Crisis Suit by itself.

    Good luck spreading the Greater Good!

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    ok thanx i have some extra points left over and i will make those changes
    i will have to do it when i have my codex though i dont have it at achool and i will switch off the burst cannon for a pr on the shas el
    but basically i want to use the kroot incase they get to close cause fire warriors suck in close combat and will get slaughtered
    but thanx for the help

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    hq-shas' el, missle pod, plasma rifle, multi tracker, shield generator=95

    elite-3 crisis suits=255
    1-shas vre, missle pod, plasma rifle, shield generator, multi trackerdrone controller 2 gun drones=105
    2-missle pod, plasma rifle, shield generator, multi tracker=75
    3-missle pod, plasma rifle, shield generator, multi tracker=75

    troops
    12 fire warriors, bonded, shas ui, devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker=235
    12 fire warriors, bonded, shas ui, devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker=235
    16 kroot=133

    fast attack
    8 path finders, bonded, shas' ui, 2 rail rifles, devil fish, multi tracker, decoy launcher, =226

    heavy support
    hammer head, ion cannon,burst cannon, decoy launcher, multi tracker=150
    hammer head, rail gun, burst cannon, decoy launcher, multi tracker=170

    here is my updated list i did it at aschool with out my codex so some of the points might be off a bit but i think it came out to about 1499

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    * Hmm, you can't have four systems on your battlesuits. Take away the generators!
    * Why have the devilfishes got a multitrackers?

    Otherwise it looks fine. Are your battlesuits acting as one team or three? Get them to act as three teams if you can, it will make them MUCH more effective, plus will give your enemies more targets to split his fire between. Skip the Shas'vre upgrade on the first suit ( wich will get him to loose the drones too) and maybe upgrade him to teamleader insted (5 pta cheaper). Skip the shields as the shielding won't do much good; you will have your suits jump out from and into cover.

    Hope I've been to some help! Cheers!
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    hq-shas' el, missle pod, plasma rifle, multi tracker, shield generator=95

    elite-3 crisis suits=170
    1-, team leader, missle pod, plasma rifle,multi tracker=60
    2-missle pod, plasma rifle,multi tracker=55
    3-missle pod, plasma rifle,multi tracker=55

    troops
    12 fire warriors, bonded, shas ui, devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker=235
    12 fire warriors, bonded, shas ui, devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker=235
    16 kroot=133

    fast attack
    8 path finders, bonded, shas' ui, 2 rail rifles, devil fish, multi tracker, decoy launcher, =226

    heavy support
    hammer head, ion cannon,burst cannon, decoy launcher, multi tracker=150
    hammer head, rail gun, burst cannon, decoy launcher, multi tracker=170
    this come sout to 1414
    sp i need some options to fill up the rest of the points thanx

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    Whoa, I have completely forgotten how it felt to have to few points! What have you got for models to begin with? If I was you, I would get a piranha or a pair of battlesuits more...maybe if you paired two of them together and bought a stealth team (three stealths is 90 pts) that would be great!

    The correct cost for a battlesuit with multi tracker, plasma and missile pod is 62 points however....
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    Put some flechette launchers on everything, as the general consensus is that those now rock. and they do... Also, although I love the ionhead, you probably need 2 railheads as you lack armor killing units. Missle pods just don't cut it for hunting armor, unless you can hit them in the back, you may want to go for fusion on some of them.
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    the models i have right now are a crisis battle suit w-plasma rifle and missle pod on it
    and a squad of warriors and a thing of kroot
    and thats all i have right now
    and i stil need to buy the new codex so that is next to buy
    and i have to paint the kroot and 9 of the fire warriors still

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    This is my point cost calculations:

    HQ

    Shas'el – 107 pts
    missile pod, plasma rifle, hard wired multi tracker, shield generator

    Elite

    XV8 battlesuit – 62 pts
    1 Shas’ui, missile pod, plasma rifle, multi tracker

    XV8 battlesuit – 62 pts
    1 Shas’ui, missile pod, plasma rifle, multi tracker

    XV8 battlesuit – 62 pts
    1 Shas’ui, missile pod, plasma rifle, multi tracker

    Troops

    Fire Warrior Team 1 – 230 pts
    1 Shas’ui, bonding knife
    11 Shas’la,
    Devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker

    Fire Warrior Team 1 – 230 pts
    1 Shas’ui, bonding knife
    11 Shas’la,
    Devilfish, decoy launcher, multi tracker

    Kroot Carnivore squad – 112 pts
    16 kroot

    Fast attack

    Pathfinder squad – 226 pts
    1 Shas’ui, bonding knife
    7 Shas’la, 2 rail rifles
    Devil fish, decoy launcher, multi tracker

    heavy support

    hammer head gunship – 130 pts
    ion cannon, burst cannons, decoy launcher, multi tracker

    hammer head gunship – 165 pts
    rail gun, burst cannon, decoy launcher, multi tracker

    Total: 1386
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