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alright, an army im working towards, give me thoughts and what to change perhaps
ok ths force is meant to represent the hidden forces and initial invaders before the brunt of the hive fleet strikes the planet
as such, broodlord will always infiltrate(to represent it bursting out of hiding) and the gargoyles will always deep strike(to represent them swwoping out of the skies
and of course, lictors are deep striking
retinue: genestealers: 5: 100
HQ total: 190pts
2 lictors: 160pts
i test ran a single lictor againt a few armies(first time fielding one)... and so far, its either done nothing and lived, or done nothing and died...
when are they effective? are they worth it? how would you use them?
Elite total: 160pts
troop total: 420
fast attack total: 228pts
im still in planning stages for this so... any changes i should make? anything i should cut out altogether?
all feedback is appreciated ^_^
Last edited by Dark_exCal; May 20th, 2006 at 17:24.
Gargoyles are fast attack, not troops... and not worth the points, either. 12 points for a 6+ save gaunt with a flesh borer? After they deep strike, one blast weapon is going to ruin their day.
As for lictors, they can be useful at times, but mostly are a waste. That said, I do use one in my 1850 and 2000 point lists. Their main objective: kill hidden basilisks / whirlwind. If none on the board, try to hit just any non-skimmer vehicle... And if none of those, go for weak squads (small guard squads, dark reapers, etc.). Their phermone trail can be helpful in reserves/escalation missions, too.
With your army, hope you don't go up against a falcon, hammerhead, LSTs, or any other skimmers, really. Otherwise, with a broodlord and 26 stealers, should be able to do well. If it were me, I'd drop the lictors (or at least 1) and the garg's... add in a flying tyrant with 2xTL-devourers, and either more stealers or maybe some flying warriors. In 1000 pt games, the enemy shouldn't have enough to cover all firing lanes so that the flying warriors should be able to make combat with the use of cover. Worst case, you use your tyrant to block sight.
Last edited by moob; May 20th, 2006 at 15:30.
oh lictors are only good at taking out terain hugging tanks like the basalisk or pickking on extremely small lightly armoured troops such as scouts
personally i don't beleive they are worth 80 points each and thus don't plan on including any which really peives me as their models are some of the best ever
as to your list i would combine the gargoyle broods, scrap toxin sacs on ur lord and extended carapace as well as the licktors use the left over to increase ur stealer sizes to 12 and if anythings left increase the gargoyle brood
Last edited by Plague_00; May 20th, 2006 at 17:50.
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Lictors are a genestealer which is very good at taking out the backs of tanks. As someone has said before the priority should be Tank>Hvy Wpn Squads>Helping out weaker troops in CC (feeder tendrils). They are extremely effective if used well and with a bit of luck. Don't forget to hit and run, I had one go through a lemun russ and a chimera before easily earning his points back. He has a pretty good chance at doing that too.. S6 on AV 10 with 4 attacks on the charge = lethal. A death leaper is even better because of the extra attack.Originally Posted by Dark_exCaldeep striking gargolyes is kinda suicidal. They have 10 leader shipso consider starting them off normally they should easily get a turn two assault (before you could only get a turn 3) and if the lictor helps them out they get 4 attacks 1x flesh borer 1x bioplasma and 2 attacks that hit on a 3+ (feeder tendrils) they are also useful against skimmers with the bioplasma though only weakly armoured skimmers.Originally Posted by Dark_exCal
Its a nice different list however I feel you wil struggle against pie plate armies like Tau, AC, IG, one hellhound and you might as well kiss this list goodbye.
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