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    Help Me With My Tournament Army(750)

    I am going to a Doubles 750 tournament on December 8th, I was going to run Chaos, but they seem too expensive, so am now running my Dark Eldar.

    Here is my 550 Point list, for my 750, I think I might add wyches, just rip this apart as much as possible.

    This isn't exactly 550 ( Its what I might use)

    Archon
    Jetbike
    Agoniser
    Combat Drugs
    Shadow Field

    Retinue- 4 Bikes-2 Blasters

    10 Man Sniper Squad (2 DL)
    10 Man Sniper Squad

    1 Ravager with 3 Disintigrators.

    Or I can use this.

    Archon
    Punisher/Agoniser
    Tormenter Helm/ Splinter Pistol
    Combat Drugs
    Shadow Field
    9 Man Retinue with Splinter Cannon
    Raider

    2, 10 Man Snipe Squads

    1 Ravager with 3 dissies.

    Which one of those is better? And if I make a 750, should I include incubi, or wyches? Because I can run a 10 man wych squad on a raider and add maybe a talos to make it 750, models are not a problem, I can make anything work.


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    At 750pts incubi are way too pricey and will make your army pretty small.

    Personally I would go with the 2nd list but I would just add a normal warriors squad and use that as his "retinue". That way he can leave the unit if neccesary and wreck havoc on his own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KabalOfTheDecayingSoul View Post
    Archon
    Jetbike
    Agoniser
    Combat Drugs
    Shadow Field

    Retinue- 4 Bikes-2 Blasters

    10 Man Sniper Squad (2 DL)
    10 Man Sniper Squad

    1 Ravager with 3 Disintigrators.
    Good list, yet I dont believe the bikes are a good choice for such a small point force. Also archon is a waste, drachon can do the job for a lot cheaper especially with a shadow field. For similar reasons as incubi, bikes are good/deadly/good looking but they are really expensive and usually arent worth taking for such a small battle. A lord on a reaver with bike retinue is going to be a little expensive, but very fast and hard hitting on a charge, however after that the bikes will be fairly easily destroyed sice there are only 4 of them

    Instead you could(could, doesnt mean should) consider getting a raider unit of wyches to be your lords company, this will save you points for not having to take the bike, and wyches are considerably cheaper then bikes so you can probably get away with about 7 of them as an escort for lord.

    Ow yes, dont forget hamonculuses, they are cheap versions of a lord. And with scissorhand and destructor you canget a very nice hamonculus lord for 50 points, I think this is a bit more convenient then having to pay 130 points for your lord especially for such a small battle

    Quote Originally Posted by KabalOfTheDecayingSoul View Post
    Archon
    Punisher/Agoniser
    Tormenter Helm/ Splinter Pistol
    Combat Drugs
    Shadow Field
    9 Man Retinue with Splinter Cannon
    Raider

    2, 10 Man Snipe Squads

    1 Ravager with 3 dissies.
    Similar thing, archon is too powerfull for a 750 point battle, drachon can do the job just as well. Warriors in retinue are a bad idea since they become meatshields in CC, after all your lord is CC oriented. If I would have to choose between the two lists, I would pick the 1st one on top, since warriors are weak in CC and splinter cannons will be wasted once you are engaged. I suggest looking into a wych retinue with a drachon...

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    Thanks for the responses so far, Am I allowed to give the archon/dracon a wych retinue?
    If so I'll just give him that and stick em on a Raider.

    Actually, I love archons, they saved me so many times, its not that many points more, and adds an extra wound, higher init, better WS, etc. The jetbike list I used was undefeated, but I actually see that the archon is slower in a jetbike than on a raider. But hits a lot harder on a jetbike, and gives him t 4, so that makes it even harder for him to be taken down, yeah I do find that the jetbikes do die easier, but pack a lot of a bigger punch than a warrior retinue, and costs almost the same, should I add a talos to a 750? Sometimes when I use them, the talos inflicts so much damage upon my enemy, and other times, it works as a large point meatshield, but if I get him into CC, he usually doubles his point cost back.

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    I'd love to help... But what are you doubling with? Dark Eldar can do quite a few different things depending on what they are supposed to be doing... but what are you partnering with? That will dictate your 'best' list.
    Using logic so you don't have to.

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    I don't have a partner yet, we have to select ours there, I want to try and partner with a tau, is that good or not?

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    Personally I would include a Talos, even more if you play 2 vs 2 and get a Tau-mate. I'd try to sacrifice myself in order to get the Tau unharmed as much as possible. Good units to "sacrifice" and keep enemy troops occupied are Wyches (they can last very long due to their 4+ Inv) and of course the Talos. Maybe you don't need/want the Ravager, because your Tau-mate could bring a lot of firepower into your game. If you really want to play with a Tau, I'd try a closecombat orientated list, with a Talos, Wyches (maybe not all 10 of them) and if you've got enough points you can get 2 Inccubi (I love them, even in small battles) and a Raider for them.
    That's at least what I would do, but I'm alone with my opinions very often ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KabalOfTheDecayingSoul View Post
    I don't have a partner yet, we have to select ours there, I want to try and partner with a tau, is that good or not?

    The ultimate partner for dark eldar in a tournament would be a tyranid player, a swarm to be exact. He moves straight for the enemy while you use your speed to manouver around the nid army and provide cover fire for them but ... tau are still a good army to fight along side with, especially if the Tau player knows what he is doing. In tau case however, he will be covering you while you try to get your assault specialists into CC, and usually you will be the one who will be protecting the tau player from assault since in CC tau stand no chance against assault marines, stricking scorpions, and other power armor equiped units unless a tau player has a Kroot detachment that can occupy an enemy for a few turns.

    Really, any other army can proove to be helpful, it will simply involve a little changing of tactics and some differences in unit selection. Keep us posted about who you will be taking sides with...

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    Right, I will go to the gw this thursday and see if I can partner with anyone, I will then make my list accordingly.

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    I want wyches in my army, should I have 1 squad of 10 wyches, or 2 squads of 10 wyches on raiders? Or is 1 enough for a750 point list?

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