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    1500pt Tourney

    I drew quite a lot of inspiration from Caluins recent list, I have quite a competitive tourney coming up and would like to know your opinion on this list.

    Hive Tyrant - 168pt
    Winged, Warp Field, Scything Talons

    As much of a moral thing as anything else, no one likes to see a flying hive tyrant and so will draw fire of other units. It is also good for tying up enemy units early on.

    Broodlord - 153pts
    Feeder Tendrils (I had the points left over for this so i put it in)
    5 Genestealers

    Carnifex - 105pts
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    Carnifex - 105pts
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    6 Genestealer - 114pts X5 (570pts)
    Scuttlers

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    Zoanthrope - 55pts
    Warp Blast

    1500pts

    C & C appreciated,

    Gazboy


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    only three comments on the list:

    1) give your tyrant +WS or Toxic miasma, as it is he hits a lot of enemy chars on 4's, and some hit him on 3's, this is bad, fix it. I also would consider finding points to give him + initive, for basically the same reason. It's less than 20 points to make this two adjustments, and in my experiance it's always worth it because with them the Flyrant is a nasty CC creature.

    2) Drop the feeder tendrils on the broodlord. Nothing in your army benefits from it, everything that you want in CC is already WS 6+, you don't need tendrils, even if it's just a filler there are better fillers to spend points on.

    3) Either drop some other units for two more zoies, or drop the one. One zoie is just not really worth it, especially without synapse creature. 1 Lascannon shot and he's dead, plus he only hits 1/2 the time anyway. The points spent on him can go to other, better uses.

    Ok, now that I've done the criticism thing, I'll say that this is a solid looking list. 35 stealers for anything on the ground (along with a CC tyrant to back them up) and 2 fexes for anything with an armour value, not a bad list at all. With just a few changes (namely ones along the lines of what I suggested, not to sound pompus or anything) this will be a very competitive list at any tournament I've ever been to.
    ~2k of genestealery goodness
    ~1750points of terminator goodness

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    more witty remarks to come.

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    Give your Dakkafexes Enhanced Senses - This will make each of his shots hit 75% of the time rather than 55% without it, which is a HUGE improvement. You need as much out of those 8 shots as possible.

    And I agree, one Zoanthrope won't do much. This can give you extra points to put into your Flying HT or a bigger retinue for your Broodlord. Come to think of it, Toxin Sacks or Extended Carapace are always good things to put on a Broodlord especially since you already have mixed armor if you don't give his retinue EC.
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    Okay, i made the changes along the lines you guys said. What do you think now:

    Hive Tyrant - 191pt
    Winged, Warp Field, Scything Talons, Toxic Miasma, Adrenal Glands (both)

    Broodlord - 166pts
    6 Genestealers

    Carnifex - 113pts
    Enhanced senses
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    Carnifex - 113pts
    Enhanced senses
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    6 Genestealer - 114pts X5 (570pts)
    Scuttlers

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    1499pts

    Again all C & C welcomed,

    Gazboy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazboy View Post
    Okay, i made the changes along the lines you guys said. What do you think now:

    Hive Tyrant - 191pt
    Winged, Warp Field, Scything Talons, Toxic Miasma, Adrenal Glands (both)

    Broodlord - 166pts
    6 Genestealers

    Carnifex - 113pts
    Enhanced senses
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    Carnifex - 113pts
    Enhanced senses
    Twin-linked devourer
    Twin-linked devourer

    6 Genestealer - 114pts X5 (570pts)
    Scuttlers

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    Carnifex - 173pts
    Enhanced Senses, Extended Carapace, Barbed Strangler, Venom Cannon

    1499pts

    Again all C & C welcomed,

    Gazboy
    Looks good. At this point in the list it's just nitpicking and I do have two nitpicky suggestions...

    I would get rid of the Initiative upgrade to the Hive Tyrant and give her Toxin Sacs and Flesh Hooks instead. If she fights marines, you want her to wound on a 2+ and if she goes against vehicles, that +1 strength will be invaluable. The upgraded initiative is nice if she's fighting things like chaplains or other characters, but most of those will rip her apart - you want to take her against vehicles and hard-to-get-to troops such as devastator squads and she will already go first against these types of targets.

    Also, my personal preference is a Venom Cannon and twin-linked devourer (and spine banks) on the Heavy Support carnifexes. You need to move them up the field more to use them to full effectiveness, but they rip everything apart when they're within 18". The Barbed Strangler is expensive and it's only 1 shot with a 50% chance of missing. Anyway, this is just the way I like to set them up because I'm a very aggressive player and they suit me well, others would probably say the Barbed Strangler is better. It's just personal preference.

    But, it looks like a very solid Godzilla list to me with or without any minor tweaks.
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    As an IG player I load up with alot of plasma, so your fexes will be generally quite vulnerable. What i hate though is all the shooting power from fexes. Can they get st 10 shots? If not then i won the last 3 games

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    10 shots...?

    I think so, the standard fex only gets 8 but with spine banks they also get a spine fist, so yeah, you could get a 10 shot fex.
    ~2k of genestealery goodness
    ~1750points of terminator goodness

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    more witty remarks to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_Harkonen View Post
    10 shots...?

    I think so, the standard fex only gets 8 but with spine banks they also get a spine fist, so yeah, you could get a 10 shot fex.
    I think he was asking about Strength 10 shots... But the answer is yes, a Carnifex with a Venom Cannon has 2 strength 10 shots at 36" range. Also, with Toxin Sacs, its close combat attacks are strength 10.
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