Welcome to Librarium Online!
Note that since this is a tourney list I would like it to be less cheesy than normal for army composition scores (they matter heaps in Australia). I also need to lose 21 points somewhere.
My available models can be found here: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...p?userid=10768
Farseer Kae /w Jetbike, doom, eldritch storm, spirit stones-150
Autarch /w power weapon, fusion gun-90
9 Striking Scorpions-207
Exarch /w shadowstrike, scorpions claw
Wave Serpent /w twin-linked shuriken cannons, spirit stones, vectored engines-130
9 Dire Avengers-152
Exarch /w pair of shuriken catapults, bladestorm
Wave Serpent /w twin-linked bright lances, spirit stones-145
10 Storm Guardians /w 2 flamers-122
Warlock /w destructor
Wave Serpent /w twin-linked missile launchers, spirit stones-130
Vyper /w pair of shuriken cannons-60
Falcon /w scatter laser, holo-fields, spirit stones-175
Fire Prism /w holo-fields, spirit stones-160
Thanks for any help.
LL, you seem have to be quite experianced with eldar and 40k, so I'm suprised you are useing that Autarch, you may as well just give your opponent 90 victory points before each match.
Everything else in the list I really like, I just can't see how the Autarch is going to be of any use to you. You could leave him out and the list would still be fluffy. It is certainly not cheesy, it looks like a 'nice' list, which in tourneys will do well.
If you dropped you Autarch you would have room for another vyper.
My other recomendation would be to either have two falcons or two prisms as they both tend to work better in pairs.
All in all, good list.
You are aware the autarch is riding with the storm guardians? I probably should have made that clear.
Do you still think hes such a waste if hes bringing a lot of punch to the storm guardian squad? or did you think he was on foot?
I'm not really sold on that autarch either. A few S3 power weapon attacks will kill a few models maybe, but not really enough to warrant him being there. Unless you just want him for the Master Strategist rule, in which case you could at least throw some mandiblasters on him. Maybe drop his fusion gun and add them.
Also, I have to ask.....why do the scorpions have both infiltrate AND a serpent? Heck, if you dropped this serpent and swapped the falcon for a prism,you could grab 2 more vypers. With 4 points remaining,I think. Failing that, just drop infiltrate and get yourself down to 1 point over. Quite acceptable methinks.
I didn't even notice I'd given him shadowstrike. I have no idea why I added in those points. It's dropped now, I'll figure out how to drop the last point later.
I was actually thinking maybe drop the seer for some bikes and mandiblasters on the autarch. Alternatively I could drop the autarch for 3 bikes /w shurikannon.
The autarch has a fusion gun because Cheredanine told me to take one , he originally had mandiblasters instead.
Another option is I could drop the farseer down to just a bike and mind war. That would give me some points to work with for the autarch/vehicles.
The problem with getting a 2nd prism is I'd have to go out and buy it. Same goes for the vypers. (if you didn't already please look at the link I posted)
Yea, even if he rides with the guardians he is still a waste.
When I take a Warlock with Storm Gaurdians, Enhance is mustard. I5 can be a life saver. You already have 2x Flamers in the unit, no sense in making a unit fall back out of assault range and leaving your unit out in the open.
Taking an Autarch is a bit of a gamble. Having a power weapon his nice, but is strengnth is minimal. A Fusion gun in a Flamer toting unit? Meh. I'd drop him to give your Farseer a body gaurd of Jetbikes.
I agree that the Autarch really is not doing much for the stormies and that the warlcok should have enhance to help them out as much as possible.
I would get the bikes to guard the farseer as suggested.
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Bikes to guard the farseer? if hes with some bikes he might get shot up. If hes behind a falcon he can't get shot at all, even if they bring it down hes still behind the wreck. Trust me short of lucky scatters from ordance (which has happened) that seer is safe.
I was talking to Cheredanine about the storm guardians being a drive by shooting squad rather than a cc unit and so I think I'll keep it that way (with destructor). However the autarch really doesn't fit there so I think I might drop him. Besides in my 2 recent games he's failed to kill anything (exactly as you said ).
My big loss was against the guard and I realised I have a serious disability to remove threats to my army. His command squads and heavy weapon platoons were fragile as heck but I couldn't remove them so they gunned me down.
Hence I think my last $60 is probably going towards a vyper /w scatter laser, maybe 2. Dropping the autarch will give me the points.
I was also thinking of running the farseer as mind war instead of the 2 powers?
The farseer is most useful when running the mindwar/doom or mindwar/fortune combos.
With the mindwar/fortune he is the eldar version of a suped up uber CC dark eldar lord. Find some cover with him then jump out, mindwar, move back behind cover, repeat.
Like this he can't be targeted and he has a 4++ invunrable. Sweet.
I guess the doom/mindwar is more useful if you have things that can benefit from doom.