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Hey i just had my first battle against IG friend(i'll be playing a lot against him) and he creamed me so badly. Any tips on how to at least have a chance against them?
I will give you some pros and cons of the army, and then how to beat them.
Oppertunity to field lots of heavy armour and transports
Many heavy Weapons
Can have some nasty special rules, like +1 cover save, re roll 1's on shooting etc.
Can have some fairly nasty HQs (psyker with honorifica and medallion anyone?)
Can have high leadership throughout the whole army
Lots of templates
Basic infantry suck, conscripts are even worse.
Generally bad BS (this can be offset)
If they take lots of doctrines, they get pricey
Average LD (unless they have a master vox, a heroic senior and a commisar, which is brutal)
Ok then, units i advise (heavily)
Scorpions, theyre just mean, 4 S 4 attacks, yes please! I would take the scorpions claw, as its handy. Infiltrate is also mean, try a squad of 10 out with exarch, infiltrate, and the scorp claw.
Fire Prisms!!!! Blast weapons that ignore all saves IG get! woohoo! Always take holo fields and spirit stones.
Falcons+ (harlies, scorps or fire dragons) This forms a nasty unit that you can drop right into the IG lines, but beware in case he swamps you with guardsmen, i would only trust scorps to take that many on.
Avengers, the sheer amount of shots from them can decimate guard infantry, its quite nasty to watch.
War Walkers with twin scatter lasers. These shred guard infantry like paper. I point and click unit, but its quite vulnerable to fire.
20 Man Guardian Squads with conceal, these are NASTY when in range, IG just drop in front of them.
Vibro Cannons!!! These auto glance vehicles, and as such can really ruin guards day....
Avatars. No one hates MCs more than the IG.... (keep them fortuned though) Fearlessness is also nice.
Farseers. A farseer can quite happily annoy IG. Whether its killign them (eldritch storm + doom!!!!) or annoyance/enhancement (guide/doom) they rock
I could keep going, but try a few of these units out, and seee what you like!
What was your friend fielding? Due to the large variations available to an IG player it is really quite hard to comment effectively without knowing what both you and he field. How many points? How much terrain? Does he play with lots of tanks? Lots of infantry? Do you prefer mechanised eldar? Aspect warriors?
I play both IG and Eldar and I know how nasty guard can be against them, and likewise how much of a pain eldar can be.
One unit I would recommend not leaving home without is a unit of war walkers with scatter lasers. 24 shots, 3 models. Add a farseer with guide in and they are really nasty - just watch out for autocannon support squads.
Scorps are a solid choice, they can chew through anything the guard will throw at you - likewise banshees and harlies are probably not as reliable due to the majority of their attacks being 'wasted' on the 5+ save guardsmen.
For armour, I would say go with falcons and wraithlords.
I've always liked the idea of Hawks against guards for the pie plate hilarity + the large number of shots & the hilarious fun you could have with the Exarch's sunrifle. However, I've not had the chance to try it out, and I'm sure one of these vets will tell you why I'm wrong ^^
As per Tommo, there are huge varriations in both Eldar and IG armies, advice is therefore rather pointless until we know what we are talking about, perhaos you could sketch out what your armies comprised of?
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My mate pretty much had lots of cadian shock troops( i mean a lot) and a few heavy weapons team. I had 2 squads of 9 dire avengers, 3 dark reapers and a farseer. He basically mobbed me with his sheer amount of troops.
definitely leave the reapers at home, I'm thinking you're playing a 450- 500? Well I suggest
Farseer: fortune, doom, spirit stones 135
DA 1: 9 w/Exarch w/ dire sword and shruiken pistol, bladestorm 145 (off memory)
DA 2: 9 w/ Exarch 2/ dire sword and shruiken pistol and bladestorm 145
That's not much pts over and you basically bladestorm and then charge, the farseer is fortuning/dooming in cc.
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