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Are nid players jerks and powergamers? Looking through battle reps and comments, it appears that this is often the case. Intense mathhammer, cheese lists, powergaming, and crybaby antics abound.
Perhaps it is the nature of the swarm- evolve and compete to be the best. Your prey won't care if you act like a douche-bag.
Anyone else have thoughts on this? What have you experienced?
Perhaps I'm asking the wrong crowd... :ballon:
I think itís a very rough generalization, and out of proportions. Maybe the LO Tyranid players are more competitive, I donít know. But of all the Tyranid players in the whole wide world I donít think that many of them are extremists (mathhammer, powergaming and so).
The ones who do powergame and use a lot of time on Mathhammer seems to take up more space on the forum, so you might find that many Tyranid players are pretty normal (yet a little bug-like).
Disclaimer: I didnít want not to refrain from not offending anyone.
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If this wasn't LO, I would swear blind you were just trolling!
Please, enlighten me as to how I should play my Tyranids. How do you play your chosen race?
Nothing to see here, please move along.
Heh, once more pople miss the point.
Tyranids are not cheeier than any other army, Tyranid players are not more competetive than any others.
People often miss that because our cheesey lists are more obvious than others (6 carnifexes are more noticeable than 6 min-maxed marine squads for example) and that most of our good units are or have to be rather specialised in order to do anything. People mistake this for cheese and overcompetitiveness. It isnt.
Its just the same colour and smell as something cheesey or overcompetitive, but its not, really it isnt.
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It's a bit of a value laden question.
Almost flame baiting esque. Non the less, I'll trust the LO community NOT to rise to the bait.
And, no Nids players aren't power gamers at all. We have an extremely fair and fun codex with lots of options.
Some of our lists CAN really hurt poor necron players. But, mostly, the nid codex is fair and even with discontent with lictors (too expensive) and biovores (generally avoided) I don't want a new codex.
But no. Nid players aren't power gamers. To make such a sweeping statement over ANY race group in 40K is.. well, the stupidity speaks for itself really.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
I don't think that Tyranid players are powergamers etc. The codex gives lots of options for ungrades and personalisation. I think people tend to see this as powergaming. They see a unit that is well made to perform a specific task and because it is made this way by the controlling player it is assumed to be cheesy.
An example is a large brood of say nine Tyranid warriors with wings or leaping, scything talons, rending claws, toxin sacs and adrenal glands. I have used broods like this before and people say they are too powerful. It is true that they are very powerful but if an opponent would stop trying to kill them with lascannons and use bolters instead, they would find the huge, pointsink brood would turn to mush.
Other times are when the powerful character or Wraithlord/Dreadnought is shredded by something. Our ability to be good at killing big tough guys at close range makes people feel Tyranids are over the top. It is due to the fact that we often have to create a unit to be good at something as so many of them have no weapons to start with and need to be made to suit us.
When people see these brood they assume it was made only for winning games and nothing else.
Im kinda just rehashing whats already been said i doubt that nid players are any worse than players of any other race, also, most players hav more than one army, so how can you alline their behaviour to just one race?
However, I can understand how this idea might have formed. I dont think nids are broken at all, but there seems to be a general creep to cirtain set ups with those who know how to play, as i guess with all armies. but it does seems that nids do require specialisation in their roles to be effective, and this could lead to stigmas against common effective set up. It isnt really done more than with any other army, it just tends to become more noticable with nids.
I think I can see where you are coming from, and re-phrased it would be a reasonable and interesting discution, but they way its asked right now is a tad too agressive of you if you actualy want a proper discusion. Esspecialy sinse majority of the people who will reply have just been indirectly insulted by from the get go.
Diplomacy can be a bitch, but so's steping on the toes of a bunch of LO fans with a fetish for bugs that eat people.
Originally posted by Karmoonyou just hit the nail on the head it is not that tyrinid players are chesers its just that when you have a army with many options you also have a army that can be abused more easily and while we are in exaggeration mood i recon this thread should be are Black Templars jerkswe have an extremely fair and fun codex with lots of options.
by the way Seanchadith did you lose your last game to a Unscrupulous tyrinid player becouse that might exsplain alot
Very nice customizable army that the 'Nids have, and so you have some movement towards power lists, but I agree that those lists are simply easily noticed as well. I don't think this, or any army, is more given to cheese than any other.
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