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    Thinking of adding him to my retinue. I know he is expensive at 90 points but with 4 base attacks and doubling the number of hits, that could be up to 8 (10 on the charge) power weapon hits in the assault from him alone. This, coupled with the rest of the retinue and my Lord should make for a unit that decimates anything it charges in CC. The drawback I see is if the HQs Raider goes down before they get in range.

    Group thoughts? Can anyone here speak from experience on how he performs?

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    Drazhar has only three base attacks, the bonus for 2ccws already included.

    However, you need at least four other incubi and a lord in order to field him, and in combination with a tooled up lord he will be overkill, plain and simple.

    That unit won't get its points back and you will probably annihilate the target on the charge or make it flee. Then you stand alone on the battlefield during the enemy shooting phase, which is not good for you.
    It's better to use a "medium HQ" which doesn't finish off its target on the charge but in the enemy's assault phase. It's also easier to get the points back then.

    There however is one use for drazhar.
    If you use a lonesome lord, e.g. on a reaver jetbike, then you can't have a second shadow field for the dracon of a second incubi HQ. It's not a good idea to spend many points on the dracon then, as she will be very vulnerable. Then, if you want a character killer with I6 (who can strike before e.g. marine HQs do) and such things, drazhar is a good choice without spending too many points on the fragile dracon.
    Important: Note that drazhar is not a character himself, he cannot allocate his attacks against specific models with the old assault rules unless these have different toughness or WS than the others of the unit. With the TAR he can always pick out ICs though.

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    Once i had a retinue of a totally decked out archon, drazhar, incubi master, and 7 incubi. trust me it annihilated a chaos retinue with ease, then survived and destroyed two huge demon squads (one assaulted and lost). as to Drazhar, he looks cool and all, but i rarely use him. if you want a really powerful HQ, and incubi master would do just as fine, but in my opinion an extra reaver or 2 is alot more helpful.
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    I always try to use him. He rocks and always makes his points back. The Archon/Dracon retinue is the best unit a DE army can have. Spare no expense is my opinion.

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    ...but avoid overkill.
    Annihilating the enemy on the charge isn't good for you.

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    drazhar is always a must for my force. I almost always take a decked out lord and retinue with lots of incubi and drazhar...then again, the armies i play almost exclusively are Necron, Dark Angels, or some Chaos army, which are all fearless and there for never flee, meaning im almost never left in the open...lol, there have been times indeed where a full squad of khorne beserkers charged my HQ squad, and got totally annhialated before they even got to swing...now thats fun

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    For my DE force he is an invaluable asset and totaly rox0rs!

    I recomend him he is one of those characters that just make the race.
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    actually now that i think about it i&#39;m gonna use him 24/7 now&#33;&#33;
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    I really like using drazhar, not only because he&#39;s useful in combat, but also because hes a stunning addition to any Dark Eldar army when painted. But i do have to agree, with all those incubis and your supped up lord, there are very few units where you will buy back your points. The only case where i have bought back my points was against a Grandmaster and his retinue. So i suggest you field him only if you know there is a specific target you are going after and you need a sledgehammer model to help you out. Otherwise, leave him at home.

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    i think what alot of people are forgetting is that Drazhar is not just another Incubi. He can potentially dish out 8 wounds on the charge, but the thing i believe that is mos useful is that HE HAS 3 WOUNDS&#33;&#33; Yeah, so what if he gets hit, next turn whoever wounded him is DEAD&#33;&#33;&#33;
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