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So I was playing someone earlier today. Playing an omega mission in Vassal. I made notes of what was in reserve and what was in the WWP. ( In hindsight, I think I put the wrong people in the reserves, should have had the lord and haem, a WWP carrier, out on the table)
Regardless of what I should have done, my opponent told me to show what was in the WWP. I thought that was ridiculous. he then said that I don;t have to show him what is in the transports, but I felt that I was hurting my ability to gain an edge by telling him what was in the WWP. Granted, I only told him that I had transports and a lord and talos in there, but I feel that I shouldn't in general reveal what is in the WWP until the appropriate time comes. That's just how I feel, cause hey, with out awful saves and our low T and S, I figure we could use any advantage we can get.
So the topic up for discussion I guess is, when should you reveal information about what is in the WWP?
Last edited by Seeker84; April 7th, 2008 at 18:40.
Help the kin TAKE your soul, I mean, take your soul...
I play Vassal. I'm in V40K Open Ladder.
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I will correct me if I am incorrect, but you reveal what is in the WWP as it comes pouring onto the table. As long as you correctly have it noted beforehand to avoid any argument, you dont have to reveal at the beginning of the game.
how would anyone know what is in the webway anyways? (if it were real life). its not like you can SEE whats in the webway. it makes more sense to know whats in the transports because it's "open-topped". also, i can understand if youre a different army and you have stuff in reserves because in that case, your opponent could have sent out scouts and what not to see what your army consists of. the webway is, what i imagine it, a portal to commoragh. i hope im making sense here cuz im very hung-over =[
You're not required to show him your army list, and are also not required to disclose what is in the portal by the same logic. I'm sure that you didn't know the extent of his army before making yours, or deploying your own. There's no reason he should have any different privileges.
you are correct on both accounts don't need to show reserves or whats in a skimmer.
covered in reserve rules and set up rules, not sure of page, at work.;Y
If you're always worried about crushing the ants beneath you...you won't be able to walk.
Page 81, top right has all the goodness you will ever need concerning ‘secrecy’ and being Dark Eldar I would never divulge my Kabals plans to anyone!
Just as an aside here, if any player demands an action in the game ask them to show where it says so.
We do after all play a permissive rules set and you need permission in every case of an event or action.
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.
Wow, we dont play it that way at our store (dunno about vassal).
I know it says in the book you don't have to show the roster or tell whats in the transports but I never hid anything. I explain everything, whats in the raiders, which units are in the portal, etc,.
I don't care for shell game tactics but I will admit that if my opponent forgets whats in my raiders its his own fault.
Last edited by KwiKwag; April 8th, 2008 at 05:32.
I won't tell people, but i do keep all my extra units on the side of the board to make it easy when i'm going to bring them on, just for game speed's sake really.
While you don't have to in this version of the game it can be seen as a negative if you don't Not sure why... some people are just annoying and believe you cheat when you are following hte rules.
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WWP and other Dark Eldar how to