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in a couple of days i will be using my 500 point tau army against my friends two other army, which are a tyranid and eldar army, and both are worth around 500 points. the tyranid army will be using a flying hive tyrant, carnifex and genestealers, and the eldar army will be using rangers, dire avengers and a farseers with warlocks.
i have stealth suits, fire warriors, kroot and a commander.
what should i do?
Concentrate firepower on the genestealers, they are nasty in combat. Use the suits against the Tyrant, and then mop up the fex. I don't know if your Commander has a static armament, but I would go with a missile pod, and possibley a Plasma with Multi-Tracker. Keep in mind that with his flying tyrant, his Fex is on his own from likely turn 2 and will have to make Ld tests for no hive mind(Ld 10, odds in his favor, but..)
My Eldar experience is more limited, but it looks like he has a range force. There just use your pulse rifles to shoot back. Stealth suits can get into 18"-24" range, and bounce in and out using thier packs. The kroot I would move forward and use thier rapid fire, maybe even assault. For the commander I would go with a missile pod, possibley twin linked, and maybe a cyclic ion blaster of air fragmentation grenade launcher to give those extra wounds.
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Luckily for you the Tyrant cannot take extended carapice so you should be able to hit it with the Plasma and MP and pour pulse rifle fire into it. If this monster reaches your lines your screwed and the same goes for the Stealers. I am hoping he does not use scuttle and improved armour saves on the Stealers. If he uses standard Stealers then pour the FW and Stealth's shots into this unit until they die.
If he uses scuttle then deploy your FW's into cover (this negates their INT) and use the Kroots infiltrate move to place them between any Tau unit that is being threatend by the Tyrant or Stealers.
The scuttle and fleet can mean Stealers reach your lines fast. Do not worry about the Carnifex until you have dealt with the Tyrant and Stealers. Use the Kroot to tie up the Tyrant or Stealers if they get to close but do not charge them first, if possible use the Kroots shooting as much as possible until you have no choice but to use the Kroot to stop the Tyrant or Stealers.
The Eldar; well the Rangers will be a problem and the Farseer can really put the hurt on the Commander (mindwar). Use infiltrate with the Stealth's and Kroot and try to take out the Farseer and his warlocks quick and then just use the mobility of the XV8 and Stealth's to whittle the other units down. Remember you have a range advantage with the FW's, keep em in cover and make the Eldar units come to you while picking them of at range and with the more mobile elements.
Tau struggle at 500pts, I never use less then 1000pt lists with Tau.
Let us know how your equipping your Commander and the other units.
Last edited by Rikimaru; June 27th, 2008 at 01:21.
thanks for your advice, i really do hope it helps, and thanks again
i will probably deep strike with my stealth suits, though i might not due to the fact that he has genestealers and they will kill my suits. i will use my commander to stay back and pick off a few genestealers with his missile pod or plasma rifle. i will keep my fire warriors back and fire in with them, and my kroot i will use to get close and shoot at some of the eldar.
so thanks for the advice.
Last edited by Daft_Deano; June 26th, 2008 at 17:20.
You sneaky chap! Now I'll have to come up with a strategy, instead of running around aimlessly, like I usually do...>_< (I'm the nid player if people were wondering...)
damn! you've caught on to my plan!
Moral in this story is: do not ever post tactical advice questions on the same site as your intended opponent visits!
Actually, I think Rikimaru has given a few tips for both sides in his response although it was mainly intended as a tactica for the Tau player - the "If he does/has this, then do this/that" response.
"Tau Commandment #226: Participants who use Velocity Trackers in the Tau Clay Pigeon Tournament will be disqualified"
For your stealth suits I'd take a Fusion Blaster or 2 - that will give you something else to help kill the hive tyrant, and depending on what HQ the Eldar has ... you could kill it in 1 shot (unless he closes on you first). One thing to remember about 'Nids AND Eldar, they are Fast so have your Kroot ready to do their meatshield move.
Last edited by Ravenscraig; July 9th, 2008 at 09:14. Reason: Numerous spelling errors - get a grip, Moonis!
Oh and one last point Kroot should never be used as meatshields they are way to valuable. Mobility, considered application of firepower and tactics and intelligent deployment are the key to beating fast armies with Tau, not sacrificing valuable units.
I don't see how he has enough points for a flyrant and genestealers and a carnifex. I mean it's possible, but he's going to have a pretty tiny force. he probably can't afford any toughness or saves upgrades which is good for you. Make sure you fire with your kroot first when taking aim at the genestealers. Follow that with the fire warriors. Save the higher strength stuff for the flyrant and the fex.
The best bit of advice a can give, however, is to stay out of the middle and let the eldar and nids hit head to head. In any 3 person game, there is always one person who gets stuck inbetween two opponents trying to get at eachother. That's not a fun place to be. If there's anything that looks even slightly out of the way, do your best to set up there.