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Alright, so, I've decided to get necrons sometime this week. I've had the codex for a little over 3 weeks and I've counted points, read everything, etc.
I plan to purchase the Necron Battleforce I counted and I save heaps. I also want to buy a Necron Lord, so I have an HQ.
From there, I want to do this: Necron Conversions to make 7 Flayed ones and 7 immortals. In terms of difficulty, is this conversion hard? I've personally never done anything like it. I'm a little confused when it says:What exactly does that mean? The only spare pieces I have are some kroot guns and tau carbines/pulse rifles... Would those work? Someone please clarify this for me.So I found a model within the box and cut myself a nice left hand/fist. A bit of drilling and some superglue and our new Flayed One-to-be has a left hand!
So the final list would look something like this:
9 Swarms+Dis fields
7 Flayed ones
Roughly 1050 or so points... A good choice for a starter? My enemies would be Nids, Guard, orks and Marines... Obviously with nids, I would drop the D.Fields on the scarabs, but with the others, I'm not sure what to do. Imperial Guard is the biggest problem, because my friend has a baneblade and my list lacks H. Destroyers.
Thanks, just planning for when I head over to GW.
Can't help much with the conversion thing, but you're going to need minimum 20 Warriors in order to have a legal army list (two Troop choices).
edit: Also, in anything less than a Megabattle or Apocalypse battle, your friend should not be using that Baneblade, and he will not be able to use it in a 1500 point game simply due to the cost, I think. It's incredibly unfair to use that in a standard game of 40k.
Hmm... Not sure what I'm going to do about the 2 squads of troops... Maybe make 2 squads of 10 and 4 immortals and 4 flayed ones?
Well, me and my friends often play with different rules, since he sucks with IG, we let him use his baneblade usually. Otherwise he epic fails.
Still need help with my other questions in the first post.
Buy an extra warrior box set to use for conversions. Get 6 immortals/flayed ones each.
Or choose one or the other. You can't field 5 immortals, 4 flayed ones do alright though.
Don't give scarabs d-fields, if you want to get good anti-tank go heavy destroyers. Otherwise use your gauss rule instead. Scarabs are best for running into enemy squads and being a nuisance. Also since most of your enemies use light infantry your scarabs can potentially wipe out their squads.
If your friend can't win without a baneblade he should look at his list and do some tweaking. Admittedly IG and necrons are very oddly balanced against each other. If he's using a baneblade that's sinking HALF his army into one big fancy tank. I'd focus fire on the thing until it was dead (this would take a while with pure gauss maybe try some HDs) Since with only 500pts left his army would be more or less useless against yours.
Maybe get a Nightbringer, and see how HE likes giant superunits.
Honestly, a Baneblade in a normal game is still just way too excessive. The tank was designed for megabattles and Apocalypse battles, not for standard 40k games, and you're giving him a gigantic advantage if you let him use it. With the new 5th edition tank table, the Gauss rule will have a very difficult time doing anything against it, much less having any hope of destroying it. I think, instead of letting your friend use an unbalanced model in a balanced game, you guys should see about helping him get better at the game using a balanced list. Point him to LO, I'm sure the IG experts here would be more than happy to help him shape up his game.
Also, keep in mind that for 5th edition, the only objective-capturing units will be Troop choices, so for Necrons that means Warriors. In 1500 points, I would recommend a minimum of 3 squads of Troops, and in games over 1500 I would elevate that to a minimum of 4 squads of Troops, and that's for any army (not just Necrons).
Kay. I don't really want to spend more money on another warrior squad and some H. Destroyers... The battleforce is already pricey and with the warriors and destroyers, it gets pretty crazy. My friends may let me play with one troop choice, we let alot of things slide (such as the baneblade).
Any difference in terms of parts from the battleforce to getting things seperately? Like do the warriors in the battleforce have the exact same pieces as warriors that are bought seperately?
Necron warriors and Scarubs come in a smaller box (12 warriros and i think 3 scarubs) for at most $20 (though i think its actually 12)
That's largely dependent on where ya are Crownaxe. For me those boxes are $35.
And the warrior sprues used in the battleforce are the same as the ones in the warrior boxed set there's no difference.
Messing with the force organization chart is one thing. Allowing baneblades is another. Leman russ and basilisk are PLENTY powerful and actually balanced for a 1k game.
I'm gonna back up Lost Nemesis here and suggest you guys help your IG buddy get better at playing. Try to enforce the rules properly, maybe things will turn out a little more fair.
Well i don't remember the how much the box is, it was the very first thing i bought along with my codex and that was last year
If all you want is killing power, and you don't have to abide by all of the rules of the game, I suggest you max out on Immortals, Destroyers, and Heavy Destroyers.