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im not sure which heavy support to use so i was hoping u guys can help me out. i was thinking bout using a battle wagon, but ork arent great at shooting and its a slow transport. killer kans and dreads get to the enemy slow and they dont have good cc weps like choppa's. looted vehicles look ok for sm's bs2 but with ig u have bs1 and need 6's to hit. heavy gunz seem pretty easy to kill but i'd give em cover. plz help me out and lemme know what hs are good to use. thanx.
dreads and kans are better than you think. They are armed with dreadnought CCW weapons, which act pretty much like powerists except you strike in Initiative order. So most of the time you only have to worry about getting into CC.
I think you have your information wrong with the whole BS on looted vehicles, it's not -2 BS it is just BS2, something all orks have so you hit on 5's instead. Although I don't see a problem with that when you use an ordnance totting vehicle like a leman russ as BS is not used. Looted vehicles can give your army what most ork armies lack, a way to inflict lots of casualties at range, fills the support role very well
Battlewagons are ok as heavy support being a very versitile vehicle, a transport and MBT rolled all into one. I personally like the battlewagon as a heavy support choice. As a transport it can carry alot of boyz and have a reasonable chance at getting them where they are needed having good armor. As a tank it does ok, armed with a Zzap gun and two TL rokkits i don't really have to worry too much about hitting. But the battlewagon lacks optimization and generally can be cheap or very expensive depending on wha roles you kit it out for.
Yeah they move 6" like the boyz, so not that bad, plus i don't know how a S10, initiative order striking, power weapon isn't a good CC weapon. Also you can take three of them in one heavy support choice.killer kans and dreads get to the enemy slow and they dont have good cc weps like choppa'sAll looted vehicles are BS 2. Never mind, just belt them with some ordnance.looted vehicles look ok for sm's bs2 but with ig u have bs1 and need 6's to hit.
I use Lootas so i can take more than one Looted vehicle. This probably equates to the most extensive heavy support range of any army.
srry srry i read it wrong. if u use lootas u get more looted vehicles?
Battlewagons are actually very useful. They can dish out serious Firepower, then drop a Warboss and Skarboyz on your opponent. I suggest using it.
Sorry I meant Deathskull Lootas. Which are a chapter approved clan that get some restrictions lifted i.e Looted Vehicles, but get some restrictions placed on them i.e Skarboyz become 0-1. You can get more than one in a Normal army aswell though, do this by taking Lootas, they are allowed to take the transport options for the squad they represent e.g chimera for IG infantry squad, Rhino/Razorback for a tactical Sm squad. This isn't very effective though because Lootas are rubbish outside of official Deathskull armies, but it is a way of getting multiple Imperial Tanks.
What do you guys give to your Killer Kans? Scorchas, Rokitt Launcher, or a big shoota? Which one is the most effective?
My normal Killa Kan armament is 2x Big Shoota, and 1x Skortcha - for three Kans. If you do the rokkit thing, give all three Kans the rokkit launcha. You may hit with one of the three rokkits.
Most effective is a toss up between the skortcha and shootas. The rokkits suck.
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rokkit of tanks
big shoota for long range unit killing
scorchas for jungle
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