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I fight Imperial Guard and Space Marines quite often, and each commander will field at least one Basilisk or Whirlwind respectively, simply for the tactical benefit of having a unit with indirect fire. They've gotten very good at hiding such units to, so I wonder, how do other Tau players tend to deal with enemy Indirect Fire in 1500+ point games?
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I deepstrike suits. Most of mine have a missile pod so they have a decent chance of punching through the armour of those things.
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Outflanking steaths with a fusion blaster dangerous and a worry to the oposition.
I always take Multi-trackers on my Hammerheads so that I may move them the full 12" and fire Railguns. The extra movement can get you the LOS you need to pop hidden tanks.
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A Pirahna with a fusion blaster can make its way up and knock out a basilisk as well.
Edit: Though this was probably a better option in 4th ed right?
Last edited by Tai'shar; August 20th, 2008 at 16:49.
skullhammer75 beat me to it.
Fusion Stealths and Outflanking is nice, and you have a 4/6 chance of them coming on from the side you want. I used a 6-man unit with 2 FBs against my opponent last Saturday, came on in his deployment zone and shot the backside off his Skyray.
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A whirlwind i tend to ignore for the opening stages of the game, as there are usually assault units barreling towards me. After/if they are dealt with its usually the deathrains that get them, either drawing LoS across the board or chasing it up the side of the board, so it stays and dies or comes out and is nailed by something else. XV88's with ASS can also get them, as I generally begin advancing to shoot something else (marines generally have very few armoured targets).
Basilisks really tick me off, their AP3 blasts blowing my suits in all directions, apart from sniping them or getting lucky with deepstrike (really lucky, as most guard players surround them with an ablative platoon for this reason). Guard have way to many lascannons really for our tanks to come out, unless your oppenent takes missiles or bunches them into a few squads, there's not much hope of killing them all. Still if your willing to sacrafice the tank then roll it out and hope the 4+ DP saves your bacon for the 2shots you'll probably need to kill it.
I think deep striking should work. I personally don't have any experience with it, but the pathfinder devilfish's beacon should help with the uncertainties of deepstrike. Keep in mind that a kamikaze fusion gun crisis suit is pretty cheap. Don't know if you like that strategy, but I think deepstriking is the key to really hurt otherwise solid (see cheesy) lists.
Im an IG player and I can tell you trying to get hammerheads to close with my cheap basi is exactly what the IG commander wants you to do. Next thing you know its getting plastered with shitloads of lascannon and autocannon shots.
Deepstriking Stealthsuits or suicide Crisis suits are the best option.
With outflanking and infiltrate it is better to try to get an ML lock on the Basi and hit it with a seeker or railgun. With the new rules for ML's on Stealth's it has really given us an option to get to these sort of hard to get units; however it is still never going to be easy.
Hammerheads should also be easily capable of drawing a LOS after 12" of movement (deployment with a view to this obviously helps), so staying out of range of Lascannons should be easy enough.
Handling indirect fire is never easy and is one of the things we simply have to face as one of our weaknesses.