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    Shadow in the Warp

    Just curious what others feel about The Shadow in the Warp power. I've been thinking about taking it for an upcoming tournament. I know it has limited use depending on the army. In fact, it would seem that it wouldn't affect most armies.

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    I've tried it a few times. Best with some kind of psychic choir.

    Truly though it does have limited uses but it can be helpful against low Ld psychers. Or psycher that have low Ld due to PS.
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    I used it in a group game last week. It really pissed off the Chaos SM army as their sorcerer and prince failed really important psychic tests that won me the game. The loss of PotW isn't bad as the power atleast fails. That's what I'm worried about.

    I always take it with at least 2 models when playing FAIL-dar.

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    does this power survive the death of the model that took it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey nut View Post
    does this power survive the death of the model that took it?

    I would say no. Also, if the model that has it is in reserves, the power should not be in effect.
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    It also protects your OWN models from Perils, or has in every tourney and non-tourney game I've ever played. Since I'm back to using Zoanthropes as a result of 5th edition Venom Cannon nerfage, it's even more valuable. Plus, even with Eldrad on the field, it caused him to fail 3 tests in my last game against Eldar, really pissing off the opponent and helping me out.

    Shadow is a *great* skill, and the removal of perils really isn't all that big a deal ... if you think about it, when those high LD psykers fail and roll boxcars, you can realize that without Shadow, they'd be casting their spell and not getting perils anyway. Plus you can laugh at your opponent every time your Zoans roll 11 or 12 or 2, b/c they aren't takin' a hit either.



    Since I think army-tweaking is stupid, I keep shadow on my guard walking tyrant at all times, and psychic scream on my flyrant just to tweak down that LD a little more every time they're testing.
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    I did some math hammer and I came up with the following chances for PASSING a psychic test with Shadow in the Warp:

    Ld 8 - %19
    Ld 9 - %48
    Ld 10 - %64

    That's assuming I did my math right
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    Sorry magnet, I got some different results to you.

    This is the chance of the unit PASSING a psychic test.

    LD7 - 32%
    LD8 - 48%
    LD9 - 64%
    LD10 - 80%

    as opposed without it


    LD7 - 58%
    LD8 - 72%
    LD9 - 83%
    LD10 - 92%

    So it really is quite a good drop in LD for each psycher. All you have to ask yourself is what is a better outcome less chance of their power working for 10 points, or their power making them lose 1 wound 1 in 18 times for 0 points.

    I am willing to go with no power as this will really throw a spanner in the works for them on occasion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splata View Post
    Sorry magnet, I got some different results to you.

    This is the chance of the unit PASSING a psychic test.

    LD7 - 32%
    LD8 - 48%
    LD9 - 64%
    LD10 - 80%

    as opposed without it


    LD7 - 58%
    LD8 - 72%
    LD9 - 83%
    LD10 - 92%

    So it really is quite a good drop in LD for each psycher. All you have to ask yourself is what is a better outcome less chance of their power working for 10 points, or their power making them lose 1 wound 1 in 18 times for 0 points.

    I am willing to go with no power as this will really throw a spanner in the works for them on occasion
    Just reworked my math and I came out to the same numbers you have.

    I'm going to give the power a shot at a tourney tomorrow. Course, if I don't go against any psychers than it'll be a waste of 10 pts. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnet_man View Post
    I'm going to give the power a shot at a tourney tomorrow. Course, if I don't go against any psychers than it'll be a waste of 10 pts. We'll see.
    Yeah it's an easy 10 pts and creates a major problem for any psyker test if you do happen to run into one. Just make sure it's on a model that is going to survive for a while and won't start in reserves... like a flyrant or something.

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