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Ok, so I am not a huge eldar fan, I will tell you that first off. Lol, mainly because I usually loose to them... However, me and a buddy were talking the other day, and we were looking at wraithgaurd... We then Proceeded to check these forums like madmen for anyone talking about cheep substitutes... We found none. Infact, the one post we found where someone was not using the wraithguard models, he was using epic models that costed 2 dollars more!!!! LOL!
So.. We then figured, that hey, we should just find a cheap way to convert them. Looking at Dire Avengers as the base model, we figured that with extensive green stuff work, and creating self sculps of a head that resembles the wraithguards, and then using some plasticard and MORE greenstuff, make the 'popped callers' that the wraithguard have (as me and my friend call them. lol) we desided, that with about 3-4 hours per model, you can do this. Of course, you would also have to cut and reposition most of the model, and then use more greenstuff to fix up the model so it doesnt look like it was cut and repositioned, then hey, you might have yourself some very original, very outlandish, AMAZING wraithguard, for almost under half the price of the original models....
But then we realized how lazy we are, and looked at the 5000 projects lying around we have yet to get past the design phases of, or even past the first sculpt or anything of.... So then we realized, hey, if you want to use wraithgaurd, there HAS to be some cheap alternative, that is tourney legal, and doesnt cost a buttload of cash!
So, being that one guy was already using epic models, we wondered if there are any other models epic wise that might be good. Unfortunatly for us, we have never played epic... So we are unaware of the scale for the most part.
I was going to post this in the epic forums, however I find it has more specialty here, since the so to speak, model proxies, would be for 40k and NOT epic.
So here goes my question:
Are the wraithLORD epic models (of which you can buy 6 for 17bucks canadian, which is a lot better then 6 wraithguard for 108bucks canadian) the right 28mm scale for 40k? So that we can use them as models for wraithGUARD for 40k?
See, if they are the same height, and similar width, then we just found some cheap (all be it terrible sculpt) models that are tournement legal, and did I mention CHEAP!? lol...
So anyone know the answer to my bud and I's dilemma?
The Epic Wraithlord models are positively tiny, they'd be no use in 40k scale.
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That was the epic models that the other player was using for wraithguard.
I guess i just assumed since they were being used for wraithguard, maybe the wraithlords were big enough as well. Oh well, looks like the best way to convert them is using dire avengers heavily converted.
Anyone else have any ideas to save money with getting 10+ wraithguard?
This may sound dumb, but theres a blog on another forum where a guy has built his own full sized revenant titan. He used the curvy handles from old toothbrushes as legs. Perhaps you could find a toothbrush with a curvy end for the heads? Either that or just buy one blister every couple of weeks. It wont hurt your wallet so much that way!
This seems like a time vs money issue. You may have the time to spend 3-4 hours per model to save your self half theh price, but I'd rather just get the models and spend that same 3-4 hours doing something more productive - take up a part time job with the same time and you could probably earn the money to buy the models faster than you can convert them :-)
I guess I was just curious if anyone has tried converting these models or use other 'counts as' models not only to save money, but for looks and style as well!
Hey I was just looking around for information on the same thing after my own attempt at making cheap wraithguard.
eldar heavy weapon sprue(one per wraithguard)
basically starting with a dire avenger I cut of the front of the helmet and then from the eldar heavy weapon sprue(I got 6 of the damn things with the cloudstrike squadron) you'll notice one of the power packs is a nice curvy wraithguard-esque shape, so attach that to the helmet(my first attempt the helmet comes down very close in front of the chest so you may want to mess about trying to get it in the best position).
The other major change is the shuriken catapult, chop off the end of the barrel and half the magazine, then grab the star cannon and cut the end off attaching it to the barrel and get the large cylinder shaped power pack from the heavy weapon sprue gluing it to the magazine.
the final part(yes from the heavy weapon sprue) the tripod power pack which I believe is used for the starcannon. attach it to the back replacing the wings(or whatever you call things sticking out of the back) and there you go a step closer to the poor mans wraithguard.
It is still a ways from looking like a wraithguard but am sure someone with more talent than me and some green stuff could definately make this work if I can, i'll try and get some pictures of the bugger and post them.
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got some pics
terrible quality I know but atleast you get the idea
That's pretty well done actually. GJ
Good luck, but I have to agree with just buying the models. I hear a lot about how expensive this hobby is, but honestly its only as expensive as you choose it to be. I've invested a lot, but I run six armies and have OCD and must have everything for them. If you just choose one army and are selective you can make a very worthy force for not very much money.
I'll admit I prefer having the correct models myself, however whenever I have even considered buying wraithguard (I do in fact have the money) a voice in my head yells "ARE YOU CRAZY!!!" because £80 for 10 of them is quite frankly rediculous, however if I can make some decent substitutes I'll be happy to use them (because by Khaine T6 eldar inf is win)
Still I am gonna check my local GW to see if they are cool with my conversion.