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I'm expanding my DE army to 1000pts and, as I feel incubi are a bit too expensive for a small force, I was thinking of putting my dracon (with punisher and t.helm) in a unit of groutesques, maybe with a haemy too. They would provide him with a bit of a 'meatshield' and the unit would be used as CC troop killers.
Do people think this is a viable option? And if so, would you stick them in a raider or let them slog it on foot and rely on the groutesque's immunity to small arms fire?
All input gratefully recieved
Last edited by EvilMatty; October 24th, 2008 at 02:38. Reason: spelling mistake
Nurse by day, Haemonculus by night
Grots are great against shooting, but die quickly in h-t-h, to the point (imho) of being a liabilty for your dracon. I tend to run my archon/dracon solo and just attach him to a raider squad. This has come in handy numerous times as he has disembarked, left the squad and use the 12" assault from his combat drugs to get units my enemy thought where safe (eldar jetbikes, crisis suits, etc)
Last edited by Gardeth; October 24th, 2008 at 16:16.
I certainly do think they are worth it as long as the rest of the list doesn't suffer (making sure the troop choices are taken care of).
If the rest of the list is fine then I think the grotesques make a good "launching pad" for a tooled up foot lord. I say this with the idea that the lord is most likely going to separate from the grotesques (so make sure they are still being led by another choice like the Haemy you mentioned).
The Modus operandi is keeping the lord on the raider when the game starts so he is being escorted by the grotesques. This keeps the lord safe if the raider is shot down. Since hits are not allocated and the explosion of the raider is treated as a shooting attack then the strength of the explosion doesn't affect the squad at all - there is no chance of the lord taking a wound at all (although they might get pinned). So go ahead and get aggressive and move this raider close to the enemy.
When its time to disembark the lord has a decision to make - can he make the charge still attached to the grotesques or should he separate? I tend to separate from the grotesques especially if I disembark really close to the target. Reason being is I want to use the lords initiative when the grotesques auto-break the enemy.
If I think even the lord may fail the charge then just keep him with the grotesques and use their special rules for protection.
If I think the lord can make the charge on his own (if I have to use the 12" charge drug) but its too far for the grotesques to make it then I separate from the grotesques.
Also remember that the lord can separate from the squad on raider by disembarking - the grotesque squad can still stay on the raider without disembarking while the lord goes off on his own.
So yah, I think these basic uses make the grotesque a good unit for the lord to join but I would also suggest giving them an IC that is going to "babysit" them like a Haemy and place them on a raider.
I will say however, at 1000 points its tough to use your points this way. There is not a lot of spare points and you have to ask yourself if that extra raider squad would make a better squad for your lord to ride with (not a retinue). I think at this point level I would rather have the extra troop choice unless you have already filled those slots in.
"On a hunch, I melted them down and inhaled the fumes and read the dark eldar codex again, AND FOUND A BUNCH OF NEW RULES HIDDEN BEHIND THE OTHER WORDS..." [Gardeth on modelling & interpreting the DE Codex]
Thanks for the input fellas, appreciated.
I think I'll definitely give this a go, should be fun if nothing else and if it turns out to be too big a drain on resources I can always wait till I'm running more points to make this a regular fixture
Nurse by day, Haemonculus by night