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The Necron codex says:
Weapons: Claws and barbed tail."
Does this mean it got 2 close combat weapons, or just one?
Wraiths have just one close combat weapon otherwise it would have said "this counts as two close combat weapons." They already have X attacks at SX, wraiths are not front line combat units either way though so they have plenty of hits to take down heavy weapon teams.
Wraiths have the basic 3 attacks each as on profile, that is all...
I think this is the 4th time i've seen this thread on LO, and if it spills onto a second page again ill make sure the thread is locked
I checked all the FAQ's and neither make any statement about the wraiths number of attacks. As the rules are written, they have their base 3 attacks. In addition they can get one for charging, and one for the 2 close combat weapons. Thus 5 on the charge and 4 every subsequent turn of combat.
The base attacks is just that, a base to work from. Just how certain space marines have 1 attack and others have more than that.
Summing this up, 3 is their base, the gain +1 for 2 CC weapons and +1 for charging.
No, I'm not trying to, sorry if I am.
Why wouldn't they get the 5th attack from 2 CC weapons? I states that they have 2 in their profile. Also, the rule book doesn't state that the second weapon must be a pistol/assault weapon. Just because it's being said isn't definitive, we need something to back it up.
Anyway, basically nowhere are ''claws'' and ''barbed tails'' defined as being close combat weapons, its purely what the Wraiths inflict damage with. They may listed as 2 separate entries, but any bonus is already included in the statline.
Given Wraiths have 2 claws and a tail, then by your logic they have 3 CCWs and hence should get +2A no? No.. instead each of the 3 weapons grants 1A, which sum to 3 in their profile.
Furthermore, ive never met a Cron player IRL who has tried to get 4A each with them (5 on charge). If i ever did i think id be delivering a slap in return lol. Try it at a tourney, see what happens
Right.. im done here
I can see the confusion, but the thing that makes it clear for me is. There's no UPGRADE. They are defaulted with the 2 weapons, but also DEFAULT to 3 attacks. That's it. Other units that 'upgrade' a 2nd CC weapon is what adds the additional attack. Wraiths don't get the upgrade choice, so do not gain an additional CC weapon attack. 3 attacks + 1 for charge is all they get.
"There is only do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
Well, I sent an email to GW and here's what I got.Turns out you were right. Sorry, this is how I learned and how I've seen many other people play.Originally Posted by My inquiry to GW
You learn something new every day.
Typically though, it's a coin toss as to whether contacting GW will give you a correct answer or not. Luckily in this case, the answer was indeed correct; nowhere does it state that the claws/tail are counted as close combat weapons, thus you can't claim any bonus to having them.
Just wanted to point out that GW isn't always right about these rules questions when asked, so be cautious taking theirs as the final word.