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I am sure you guys are sick of hearing about this set but here goes.
I recently got my dark eldar army back from my ex-wife, she found it somewhere in storage. I was shocked and exited to play again. My step kids quickly became interested and are all about 40k now making all sorts of variations on my 3000pts of models to fight each other. So for christmas I decided to get them all a beginners army. One wants to play tyranids, the other Orks!!!! and finally Chaos space marines. I plan to buy the tyranid boxed force and two assault on black reach boxes. Give the orks from both boxes to the Ork player, and trade/use/convert the space marines for my CSM player. (wife says can't spend all christmas funds on it..)
Now for the question. Are the weapons in the sprues for the AOBR limiting? Its a great deal, but if I am going to be stuck with a very specific army it might not be. If its limiting, is it at least what they'd be better off with?
Well, you have a bit of a mix of answers for your AoBR concerns.
Yes, the options are completely limited to the molds that come as is, there are no options for varying wargear. However, this isn't really a problem since what it comes with is rather nice.
For the Orks, the Warboss comes with a power klaw, and what could be very easily construed as a TL Shoota, Bosspole, 'eavy armor, and Cybork body. The only thing more you could want is an attack squig, and you can just order one of the squig packs from WHFB if you're that adamant about WYZIWYG at that point. While you don't get the option to switch out this weaponry, that model looks fantastic.
The Nobz are all axe and slugga, no power klaws to speak of. This is fairly easily remedied with a little conversion and chopping up other bits and pieces here and there, though. You're not going to want every single Nob with a Klaw anyways, one or two in a 8-10 ork squad is plenty. None come with a Bosspole or a WAAAGH! banner, so you'll have to do a minor conversion to put a banner on them, or you can purchase the singular model from GW. Same with a Painboy, either convert a Nob or buy one. The painboy would be pretty easy, greenstuff a tube, paperclip bit as the hypodermic needle on the tube, green stuff a surgeon mask on one of them, probably the cybork-looking head.
You get 20 Slugga Boyz and two Big Shoota boyz in each kit. Personally, I take Sluggas over Shootas any day, but I also run a highly mobile force with Wagons, Trukks, and bikes. I also wouldn't really bother putting the Big Shootas in there with Sluggas, but keep the models if you ever decide to purchase more ork Boyz as Shootas instead of Sluggas.
The Deffkoptas look great and already come with their premiere weapon: TL Rokkit Launchas. If you really want Big Shootas on these, you can clip the barrels off of the Big Shoota Boyz and glue around the Rokkits. Adding a buzzsaw (not suggested for actual use) isn't very difficult to modify onto it either.
The last thing orky for those AoBR sets, if your CSM player doesn't mind, is a Deff Dread. I saw a conversion with the AoBR Dreadnought and a hacked apart Deffkopta that just looked great considering the pieces used. If your Ork player was interested in a Deff Dread, that's the way to go. Most CSM don't use Dreadnoughts anyways due to their insane roll drawbacks.
Thanks for the quick response!
Yeah thats what I was worried about, the power klaws ect.. I guess I want to have my cake and eat it too (amazing price AND bits!) It should turn out fine, guess me and my son are going to learn how to do conversions! I wonder though, is it expensive to order just bits from GW? Is there a sort of grab bag or random ork goodness?
To the best of my knowledge, no, there is not a way to just order a bunch of klaws, burnas, rokkit launchas, big shootas, etc. At least, not from GW. You can get it from other sites, but they won't be very applicable to the AoBR guys because they are pre-molded and built with just the head and one arm needing to be attached. Even if you ordered specific bits, you'd have to do a little modification to get things exactly how you want them.
The secret is to just scrounge parts from various sets, and cut random pieces of sprue in ways that it looks like the item you want.
Powerklaws are easy: see a wrench sticking out of a backpack? That's a powerklaw. A bad moons sybol? Powerklaw. Two vehicle hooks? Point them towards each other, and it's a klaw. Just be creative.
Guns are more difficult, but some sets come with a lot of extras. The Loota/Burna set, virtually any vehicle, and if all else fails an Imperial Guard Heavy Weapons team will all come with plenty of extra bits. Figure out what you need and then go from there.
Can I provide links to the user stores on librarium online? Does that violate anything? If so...just PM me and I'll send you the seller "bitz" store links.!
hoard_*_bits is the name of my favorite ebay 'bits' seller. He combines shipping costs on multiple items, which is nice, but you might find that the best way to get a lot of parts is to buy a large lot of random bits, often referred to as a bits box.
And if all that info doesnt help, you can just sell what you dont want on eBay amd make some money back! I'm selling Marines from 2 AoBR box sets and I already got bids.
Oh, I also loooooooooooooooooooove Bitz boxes <3<3<3<3<3
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thanks guys!!! You have allayed my fears, and a bitz box works out perfectly. This way they can create the army however they want and have room to improve as they get to be better players. Its going to be interesting as the ork player says "ooooh that one looks awesome I want him in my army", as opposed to the nid player already mathhammering it...