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Hi all. My name is Bladeweaver, I introduced my friend to Warhammer 40k and he was blown away. He has the Cash, Intrest, and time for it. While Browsing the Various Armies he was instantly drawn to the Tau Empire. He Likes the Tau Empire Becuase of the battle suits. He says the battlesuits remind him of Gundam, hence he wants to have a lof of suits in his army. Like his HQs and Elites choices will be All Battlesuits. Possible his Heavy support,...not sure yet.
So with that in mind, heres my question. Can he pull off a Battlesuit themed or Mech Themed army alright? I dont know much about the 4th Tau Empire, but is a Mech Army good, or is this poor kid about to waste his money and time.
I thank you in advance, and im sure my friend will appreiacte it. (Hopefully he can thank you all himself if he really gets into it)
Luckily for him all of our elites choices are battlesuits, so no hard choices there.
Battlesuit heavy armies are easier to 'pull off' in larger points limits, but i find they are still mainly support units, covering battlefield roles unavailable elsewhere. Anything less than about 1500pts and they begin to take points away from other vital parts of the army.
As a general rule, we only have ONE hq choice, and it doesn't start with e, as for our heavy support, hammerheads aren't vital, but are still largely helpful, but running all broadsides is perfectly viable.
Just make sure he knows that tau are fairly incapable of making 'broken' or overpowered lists, they make good balanced lists, but i can't think of any build that could be considered on par with some of the BS that has arrived with the later codex's. Also make sure he stay's away from farsight unless he wants some fluff and is prepared for a challenge (ie using the biggest lump of expensive useless mindbogglingly underpowered CC nancy ever to grace the pages of a codex).
As far as the actual suits go model wise, this should provide more than enough inspiration for him to do away with the boring normal suits. Tell him to get a list he likes together up here so we can help streamline it and deal with any misconceptions.
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My personnal favourites are the first one (by kai'lore) and legacy 40k's trio of suits. (warning lots and lots of photos)
Last edited by Spartan Command061; December 4th, 2008 at 05:26.
Before 5th edition and Troops-as-scoring-units, extreme battlesuit-heavy armies could be built that were extremely deadly. However, such an army build, while still legal, wouldn't be nearly as effective. Those armies typically spent a pittance on the Troops requirements (e.g., 6-12 Fire Warriors and 10 Kroot) and then spent everything else on suits. That just isn't realistic anymore. (And the game is definitely better for this change.)
A good target for a 1st army is 1000 pts. At that level, you can probably get by with just the 2 Troops minimum, though games can still be tight. If it were me, I'd build on top of the following base:
Shas'el (typically 97 pts or 100 pts, depending on loadout)
12 Fire Warriors in a Devilfish (~200 pts - 235 pts)
12 Fire Warriors (120 - 135 pts for "usual" builds)
10 Kroot (70 pts)
This clocks in at around 540 pts, leaving you 460 pts to spend on Crisis Suits, Stealth Suits, and Broadside suits. As you build to a more "typical" or "standard" list of around 1500 pts, add in at least one more Troops unit and a 2nd Devilfish, and then tack on more suits to taste.
ninjabackhand: point and click, again, really? even after i give you an military term "shock tactic" you still call it point and click.
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Just remember that fire warriors are 1+ units, and need the troop for scoring (min. 2). NEVER UNDERESTIMATE the quality of Markerlights from pathfinders, other than those going Battlesuit Galore is fun I do it myself.