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I have been getting the 2 opinions of "yes they are better" , and "no they are worse"
I tend to stick to no, as gw will never help DE unfortunately...
which one is it really???
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from what i have seen from the new rules DE will be better, they get their save against bolters and other AP5 wepons.
plus the only vehicles that can assult after unloading are open topped vehicles
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wait, how do they get their save against bolters, this is a new one for me.
Though i think they get better. Especially with the new rules about chasing down opponents (high initiative == better chance of slaughtering them), and being able to get full attacks at 2 inches of combat, and being able to still jump out of raiders and assault while SMurfs no longer get to do that with their rhinos...take that sucka'
with the new rules the wepons AP need to be lower then the save , not just equal to it. i think ill have another look at the rules.
no offense to the rules, but that sounds pretty...well, pretty damn dumb. It makes AP 6 weapons like frag missles and such not worth even mentioning an AP (aside from the fact that, ok, sure, they can pierce vehicles, but then again, strength 4 couldnt pierce anything anyways). and it would screw over a lot of guns such as necron destroyers which used to be able to sweep through tau and aspect warriors lines with ease, and not to mention totally castrate the tau rail rifle (aka space marine killer). Unless of course they plan to modify some of the AP of certain weapons to compensate.
I had a look at the rules and its not there, I think I have seen it on L-O in rumors or somewhere
There is no change to the way AP works, not from anyone I've talked to who saw the actual rulebook
thats good then, it would suck soo bad not being able to take awys smurf and necron saves with AP3 wepons.
That rumour is most likely not true. Such a massive change of the AP rules would definitely have been mentioned in the 4th edition preview pdf. It was not.Originally posted by hobbithunter@Jul 14 2004, 04:47
with the new rules the wepons AP need to be lower then the save , not just equal to it. i think ill have another look at the rules.[snapback]181926[/snapback]
It also would completely mess up the game balance.