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Merry new Waaagh! to all ye orky gitz out there.
I’m a relative noob (not nob) to 40K, played a few games and mostly had my ass delivered to a different zip code in the end. I’m now in the process of planning my next army and I have a few thoughts that I would like some skilled (or unskilled… me not picky) input about.
As I had read the forum I haven’t managed to find much about the marvelous flashgitz. Are they worth their points? And when we are subject, how have you guys (or girlz…) modeled your flashgitz models (I haven’t found them in any GW store)?
Another thing I was going to ask you of greater cunning is any ideas you may have how one goes by converting an eldar wave serpent to a looted tank. Me thinkz that the model would be great but would it be a problem having a skimmer as a looted vehicle?
I have been greatly impressed by all the cunning worthy of Mork that has been displayed here at the forum and I eagerly away any input or thought you may have.
Flash Gitz, while cool in concept, are generally considered one of the worst ork units for their points. Mathammer experts will confirm this for you. They're expensive and don't do much. However, they are cool and have their uses as fire support and are somewhat "jacks of all trades" though I believe that their lack of PKs is a big problem (if I'm not mistaken). One potential use is to have them support and guard your Lootas and then move them out to do other stuff if the lootas aren't threatened. I've never used them but like the idea of them, so if you want them, go for it!
As for models, we've traditionally had to model out own. THere are some options though. If you go to the classic ork models you'll notice that one of the classic nobz has a big ol gun that could easily represent a flash git gun. Also, the classic ork with bosspole has a large gun that could be easily converted into a flash gun. However, your biggest asset for models may be the new ork nobs kit coming out. It comes with three big shootas that can be used as or converted into flash guns. You can also convert several normal shootas into snaz gun by cutting off the barrels and putting multiple barrels on a nob with slugga, making a longer gun with multiple barrels.
As for converting a wave serpent, go for it! You need to use the rules for a looted wagon, so no skimming around, but its totally legal. You could also ground it and add a bunch of wheels heheh.
Thanxs Seanchadith for your input, I have been a fan of the flash gitz since Dawn of War (“look at me flash boss”) and I think I will try them out anyway. Your thoughts on how to model the gitz were of great help. I will get me some new nob kits and see what I can make of them. I will go along with converting the wave serpent and putting wheels or tracks on the beast to make it more orky. I guess I have to learn how to use Green stuff now
Flash Gitz, unfortunately, just aren't worth their points at all. If they could take a dedicated transport and nob with bosspole and powerklaw as standard options, they might have been able to have been sold as shootier nobz, but without them, they just can't do the same job.
Lootas are much better at shooting. Hell, point for point, shoota boyz are a lot better at shooting, and they don't need a vehicle or special character to be effective.
Captain Badrukk is actually quite awesome, but it's just not worth spending the points on his accompanying unit. I've toyed with the idea of just making a unit of 3 flash gitz, with Badrukk, a painboy, a single Flash Gitz with the +1 shot and STR upgrades, and a vehicle of some sort for them to travel in, and play Badrukk off as an Ork celebrity, with his personal physician, secretary, and limo. It'd mainly just be for fun though. ^_^
I have one Badrukk, one left over Dok, one old Freebooter, and two left over Warbosses, so my Badrukk is going to have a surgical assistant, a treasurer and two low-IQ bodyguards.
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10 Flash Gitz? That's going to be a hell of an expensive unit! In fact, assuming you give them all cybork, and all the flash gitz +1 Shot and +1 Strength to their guns (and you should), that's going to come to about 510 points, and that's not including a transport!
I checked the book, and I now realize that my previous plan isn't possible. You need at least 5 Flash Gitz in each unit. 3 Flash Gitz with above upgrades, doc with cybork, and Baddrukk would come to around 315 points. A battlewagon with big shoota, grot riggers and deffrolla would add 120, for 435 points. It's funny and fluffy, but not cost effective. For 380 points you can field 2 units of 13 lootas, or for 470 points you can field 2 units of 30 shoota boyz, each with 3 big shootas, nob, powerklaw and bosspole.
Flash Gitz just aren't cost effective. If you like them, then by all means, use them. Just don't expect them to make back their points.