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So, with the current exchange rate being very favorable to the dollar I've been thinking about picking up a super heavy from FW, but I'm not sure whether to go with a Scorpion, Cobra, or Revenant. The comparatively short range and one shot on the Cobra doesn't make it that great for going after other super heavies, but damn that 10'' S: D will clear objectives like nobody's business. I like the scorpion for it's longer range, twin-linked 2 shots. I may not kill as many infantry units but it seems like it'd be a much better option for busting landraiders and super heavies, and it's fewer points.
I'm currently rankling a little bit about the fact that the Revenant is more points than the warhound, even though the warhound has better weapons, way better armor, and can potentially be made into a walking booby trap with it's Reactor Meltdown rule. That's a concern for me because my brother is currently looking at a Warhound for himself, so we can square off at our FLGS Apoc games. That aside though, there's something to be said for having a titan and 2 pulsars is nothing to scoff at.
So does anyone have any thoughts on what's a more well-rounded choice? I'm figuring realistically I'll be fielding it only if there's another super-heavy on the board for me to contend with, and my FLGS has a good smattering of different armies that show up for Apoc. Any thoughts and input are apperciated.
Last edited by Deris87; January 29th, 2009 at 17:08.
wow i was about to make that post myself.. probably gonna go to this year games day in toronto and if the prices looks good id like to get something myself but just not sure what...scorpion, revenant or one of those flyer(phoenix, vampire hunter)????plz to those who already own some of these huge models for apocalypse plz guide us
ok... no1 in the eldar comunity are playing with forgeworld minis??? thats not really good..
I have a Rev Titan and a Cobra. You are spot on with the Cobra's weaknesses, but oh, boy when it hits..... Plus its' very hard to miss what you are aiming at with 10" templates. Also remember that the Cobra does not need line of sight which can be very useful in keeping it hidden against the enemy super heavies.
As regards the Scorp vs. the Rev. I would go with the Rev every time. Twin linking a blast weapon is a bit un-needed in my opinion and I'd rather have two Pulsars than 1 twin linked. Also remember that the Rev can shoot them at 2 different targets. Also don't under-estimate the agility of the Rev Titan. It can move up to 36" and this can be useful if you need to avoid other super heavies or monstrous creatures - and be warned, if you play against an enemy that has a lot of MC's they can make short work of your SuperHeavies.
Also, there is very little a Rev Titan can't see on the table as it stands about 12" high which is probably higher than any terrain feature you may have.
No matter how I look at it the Scorp just never looks better at doing the job than a Rev (I know it's cheaper though).
As regards flyers. I have a Nightwing and a Void Dragon Phoenix. Never tried the Phoenix in battle yet, but the nightwing is cool. It can decide to shoot at whatever it wants and with Brightlances and Shuri-cannons you know it's going to cause worry to what ever it wants: tanks or infantry. Even better, nothing with a template is allowed to shoot at it and everything else needs a 6. Even though it's fragile the enemy is far more likely to shoot at something ground based that it has a better chance to hit and so the Nightwing just flys around all game unmolested.
I'd steer clear of the Vampires though as they are only marginally tougher than the Nightwing and are too powerfull to ignore. And as unlikely as it might be, it is possible to shot it down with a single bolter shot. For over 700pts I want something with a little more staying power.
allright thx for ur advice , so maybe a revenant or a phoenix ?
In a push I would say the Rev.
From a non-gaming perspective. The Rev is probably the hardest of all forgeworld kits to put together. If you've got experience with the resin models, then you'll be fine. If not, then make sure you get plenty of advice before taking him on as he is too expensive to screw up and resin can be fragile. I've got a few pics of mine on my blog so you can take a look at what's involved in putting him together and forgeworld have a page that gives some good general advice:
Working with Resin Models
The Phoenix on the other hand is pretty much one big hunk of resin, with a few extra details, the nightwing is a bit more complex but the real challenge with flyers is basing them effectivly. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll do my best to help out.
allright thx for the tips so far... didnt by anything yet... just starting to think about it for gamesday this year in toronto
I would say get the Revenant, if you don't already own a titan it is really fun and scares lots of people, no matter what kind it is.
I personally have the Scorpion and the Cobra as awell as the Revenant and I must say that each has its bounses.
Revenant: 2 Pulsars, very intimidating
Scorpion: Much easier to transport, adds some boom for realtivly cheap.
Cobra: Great if you know your buddy/ Brother brings a titan of his own. watch in glee as his precious warhound goes kaBOOM! in his own deployment zone.
Hope that helps, but when its all said and done get a titan.
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Thanks for the input guys, after thinking about it I'm probably gonna go with a Revenant, just for the awesome factor and firepower. That said the cobra is still kind of tempting, it'd be awfully fun to drop a 10'' D blast on top of Da Green Tide :-D But after doing the math, unless I did it wrong it looks like the 4 5'' blasts from the revenant would cover the same area as the 10'' blast. It's just not as fun to do it with the hum drum large blast templates that you use every game though.
for my part i might be tempted to get a phoenix.. lots of firing into not to many points.. doing some fly-by sounds good.. unless maybe you guys think theyre a bit to fragile???else then that yes the revenant is tempting but i fear it to be more fragile then a more bulky/together model like a scorpion or flyer..... just my own opinion...