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In my soon-to-be current army set up, I will have 2 wave serpents in my army. One will carry Dire avengers, and the other fire dragons. I think that I will outfit the DA's WS with TL BL and the FD's WS with TL Scatter Laser... this way if one gets taken out I still have anti-Tank and anti-infantry with the other...
Does this make sense? Is there some reason not to do this? The only situation I could think of is where you are taking your passengers towards their target, and no targets of other types present themselves and therefore your shots from the WS might be wasted (i.e. FD's towards a Tank, with scatter laser shots being worthless against it).
Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sounds like a pretty reasonable load out, and synergizes well with your squads. Though one thought, what point value will this list be at? If you don't expect to see many landraiders you might consider dropping the BL to an EML. Against a vindicator or predator it's usually possible to get a side armor shot so you don't need the Lance, and the EML can the also be used for anti-infantry as welll.
A good anti-troop and anti-av waveserpent is
Waveserpent with Twin missile launchers and shuriken cannon upgrade.
The EML can be fired as a blast defensive weapon giving you the EML and cannon after moving 12".
Also gives some modest anti tank ability if there are no troops to target.
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A similar question gnaws at me all the time. Should I equip a unit/vehicle as a jack of all trades or as a focused tool.
E.g. if the Dire Avengers squad's primary objective is to hunt and kill infantry, wouldn't it be better to give them the anti-infantry Wave Serpent so that they can get that job done with 100% efficiency? If there's enemy armour on the table then you Fire Dragons should be taking care of that (but normally don't need additional ant-tank back up anyway). If you have enemy armour and enemy infantry in close proximity then both your units should deploy next to each other and take care of their specialty.
A wise Eldar player on this forum once told me "...Eldar choose when to engage the enemy and how...." this comment was aimed at CC and not vehicle choice but it seems to still be applicable.
But to go back to actual question, I think if you kit out for flexibility you are playing a more re-active game, whereas if you equip for more specialist roles you are playing pro-actively and are backing your own tactical skills as a general.
I don't know where I fit yet as I am always tempted to throw in a big weapon into the CC squad (yes Mr Death Jester, I'm talking to you), or put a strong CC option into a shooty squad (Power weapon and Shimmershield anyone?), for those "just in case" moments. If I were a better player they should probably never be needed.
Just my tuppence worth.
Last edited by Daziel; January 30th, 2009 at 09:31. Reason: Removed typos
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So I played a game this weekend with my AT in a WS with scatter lasers. As I moved up towards the tanks, there weren't really a lot of infantry to shoot at. I dropped off my AT and then used my WS to try and shoot at a Greater Daemon, and I think I gave him a wound. I realized that, with 36 inch range on the scatter lasers, I should be able to still take pot shots at some things as that range is rather large.
I also realized that, using this synergized WS tactic, I can effectively deal with the problem a different thread was dealing with, being the mechanized rhinos... Drop off your AT, pop the tank and use the WS to shoot at the infantry that come out. Even better, use your TL BL or EML to pot the tank, and drop out the DAs to shoot the infantry.
In response to Daziel's comment, I'm not sure that having all (or most) of my eggs in one basket means I'm a better tactician. I do understand what you are saying though, about reacting rather than forcing your opponent to react. I do tend to be more of a reacter, and that may be something I need to work through. Having all my AT in an AT transport can tend to force my opponent to go after that transport, and leave other stuff alone, and then I can count on them doing that, and try to strategize accordingly. I just was wondering if that is too risky. Hate to have a wave serpent full of fire dragons get destroyed before I can move it, and then have the FD's get mown down on the way up.
BTW, the BL is for going up against Land raiders and the like, otherwise I'd probably go with the EML/ cannon option.