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    Why no Ethereal?

    Hello Tao brethren!
    I have been wondering about Ethereal, i don´t see him in any armies. Why?
    Is he bad or is it that you can get another suit instead?
    I mean *Inspiring presence, i that not worth 50 pts? To be able to re roll an fleeing unit?
    Just curious about it.

    I have used him in two battles now.
    I faced Orks once he had tons of killa kans (6) with blast weapons, he wins to start the battle.
    He blasts on one fire warrior squad ( 12 ) and my pathfinders ( 8 ). Kills 3 in the FW squad and 2 in PF.
    I actually failed both morals.. F***! But they had LOS to my Ethereal and i rerolled both and i saved them. Great! That was one time, what if i had failed them and ran over the table edge? two units gone.

    What is everyones opinion about him?
    All comments welcome!


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    It's not the he's bad. The Ethereal can be a double edge sword. Lets say your facing Marines. They field a unit of scouts with Telion. Telion can shoot the unit your Ethereal is in and allocate the shooting wounds on the Ethereal who has no save so it die, now the rest of your army has the chance of running because of Price of Faliure. It's really more effective you use his points somewhere else.

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    Our resident Tau player has given up on them after losing his entire army in the second turn turn because most of his units failed their morale test and then were escorted off the table.

    Bit of bad luck I know but I don't really blame him. He didn't have much of a chance against an entire army of Eldar jetbikes, especially once the Autarch got into charge range.
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    Exactly - if you have an ethereal, all your opponent has to do is kill him and an average of about 40-50% of your units will flee off the table. Most players do not find it acceptable to take such an "I lose button".
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    Although I agree with the common consensus that the Ethereal isn't all that effective on the game board, the primary reason I don't include him is fluff. I simply cannot wrap my head around the idea that any Ethereal would be allowed to risk him-/herself on the battlefield. The fluff in the book talks about them almost as if they are worshipped. At the very least, they are obviously the Big Strategic Brains of most (all?) military operations, so putting them in harm's way would be counterproductive.

    General Eisenhower didn't personally lead the troops at Normandy on D-Day.

    So that's what it is for me. If the Ethereal's fluff were different -- or I felt compelled to alter it for some reason -- I would actually field one, at least occasionally, just for the overall LD benefits. He's a bargain in that respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padea View Post
    Hello Tao brethren!
    I have been wondering about Ethereal, i don´t see him in any armies. Why?
    Is he bad or is it that you can get another suit instead?
    its because if he dies, you get a HUGE disadvantage, but gain a useless advantage, his advantage when alive is pretty meaningless since you wanna keep him hidden to stop him dying but then your men can't see him.

    waste of points

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    Quote Originally Posted by number6 View Post
    Although I agree with the common consensus that the Ethereal isn't all that effective on the game board, the primary reason I don't include him is fluff. I simply cannot wrap my head around the idea that any Ethereal would be allowed to risk him-/herself on the battlefield. The fluff in the book talks about them almost as if they are worshipped. At the very least, they are obviously the Big Strategic Brains of most (all?) military operations, so putting them in harm's way would be counterproductive.

    General Eisenhower didn't personally lead the troops at Normandy on D-Day.

    So that's what it is for me. If the Ethereal's fluff were different -- or I felt compelled to alter it for some reason -- I would actually field one, at least occasionally, just for the overall LD benefits. He's a bargain in that respect.
    That is actually a really solid point. Ethereals are the most valued members of the Tau race. The Tau do not believe in putting themselves or others at risk unnecessarily so why would they risk their most valuable and revered leaders. If they did venture on the battlefield it would be in the most advanced armour available to the Tau or they would at least have an ultra effective force field (Shield Gen) as standard, they would not be stood there clad in a fancy dressing gown.
    In my opinion though they would work from a command vehicle from the rear of the lines using advanced data linkages to provide ‘as it happens’ battlefield intel.
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    Okey.. i guess i have to skip him then... :/
    I liked the model! Darn.. maby 1/20 games i could use him. =)
    Thanks everyone! =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padea View Post
    Okey.. i guess i have to skip him then... :/
    I liked the model! Darn.. maby 1/20 games i could use him. =)
    Thanks everyone! =)
    Hey, if you like the model, you should use him! That's nearly always a good enough reason in my book. You can definitely make an Ethereal work for you in your army.
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    Before you could just hide him anywhere on the board and keep him out of harms way. Now with 5th ed and the latest Tau Codex their is just too many ways for him to get killed and that is a big problem.
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