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Ive been struggling with large mobs of 30 orks with klaw nob recently, as per usual, however i then came up with this and i just thought id run this by you all to see if you recon this is legal, im not sure on how the ruling works.
basic idea is that you take a tyrant and 3 guards and give them all implant attack, then asuming you get the charge:
on average, 4 hits and wounds from tyrant, 4 dead, 12 attacks from TG, 8 hit about 5-6 wounds and 1 makes a save. so thats about 9 dead. 90 hits back, 45 hit, 7-8 wound ,you fail 2-3 saves. Nob gets 3 attacks, 1-2 hit, probably wounds, so worst case, you win by 5.
now does implant attack mean you deal 18 wounds, so you get a win by 13. The ruling says that any model who fails a save suffers 2 wounds instead of 1. in that case due to no reatreat, another 11-12 orks die, so in 1 turn youve killed off 17 orks. combine that with another unit assaulting at the same time and thats devastating.
So is this a legal move, or is not strictly correct due to 5th ed changing the way fearlessness works? Thanks in advance
Page 39 BBB:
"..nor do wounds in excess of a models Wound characteristic (count), only the wounds actually suffered by enemy models."
So unfortunately dealing 2 wounds to a 1 wound model still only gives you 1 combat resolution point.
Don't know much about 'nids but I have 1,250 points of Orks that a game with ALLOT. I win allot of games becasue not too many people play orks so there unfamiler with the tactics. I have 2 mobs of 20+2nob leaders, Gazhgull, 9 deffcopters with rockets and 10 nobs 5 claw 5 big choppas. Your biggest fear as an ork player is the enemy range weapons. Obviously as a nid play your mainly CC but if you could get some of those Venom cannona, think thats right, and barbed stranglers? I think thats the names of them. Don't they have a large blast? I'd go for as much shooty stuff as possible...
I've wipped out squads of assault terminators and vangaud vertrens time after time
I've lost half my army to a couple of squads of fire warriors even more frequantly...
heh dont worry, i play orks myself and know how to beat them just fine, it was just a specific set of units in a list that i needed info on, Thanks for the advice though
Same about the ruling, would have loved to shove that one in his face, but oh well, thanks kroxigor.
Edit @ John, not many people play orks in your area? Wow love to see where you game, where i am, if a new person comes along without orks its a miracle.
Last edited by Heirodule; May 9th, 2009 at 18:07.