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My friend wants to start warhammer40k. And he likes the cron models but he wants to know.. Can they be shooty? He thought he would get this.
Now....... I know what you are going to say take the deciever out. To many points in a small army. But he really likes the model, and is as stubborn as a donkey, so he won't take it out if he buys crons, Is that shooty?
O & G: 5/0/1
Ummm, Necrons are shooty. Their troops come with guns, and they don't have any amazing combat units. Just make a normal Necron list and it'll be shooty.
necrons are about as shooty as it gets (only tau are more shooty really).
I dis agree whith all of you so there :o Necron basic troops just pretty much have bolters (really really good bolters but a bolter), where as a "real" shooty army gets Heavy weapons whith threre basic troop. But necron are not a "real" CC army they get one attack I2 (when they bring back sweeping ADV this will make them even more crappy in CC), where as a "real" CC army like khorne gets 3 attacks whith a khornate chainaxe.
It all depends on how you wan't to play, and how you look at necron (how you look at 40k for that matter). You could make a shooting army out of them, but unless you cheesed it out pretty good it would'nt be a very good one. You would probly get out shot by every shooty army out there (maybe not eldar or DE, that is if you took a lith). I think the best way to play them is a mix of shooty/CC. But again its all about you'r own personal playing styel.
Oh..... Ok...... I didn't they they were shooty because there longest ranged weapon is 36 inches. (I think....)
O & G: 5/0/1
:ph34r: ImÂ´a necron player and i can say you that necron are a very shooty army.
Necrons have the inmortales and destroyer. They are very very effective shooting. they lack of low AP, but they shoot a lot and if they tkae a 6 they will make a Galcing Hits on every tanks.
The necron troop unit must get into raping fire range. While they are aproaching the enemy will take out some necrons, but if you play will or againt it you will see they necrons are very very though. and when you get into rapid fire, they are very effective.
Another think. You must use the teleports options (the veil of darkness and lith) for aproching your enemy.
THE NECRONS ARE GOOD FOR NEWBIE PLAYERS. THEYÂ´RE EASY PAINTING AND THEYÂ´RE THOUGH SO YOU CAN MAKE MISTAKES AND SEE LIKE YOUR NECRONS GET BACK. :lol: (WE WILL BE BACK)
yet to presence of deceiver will cost him a lot of victories in the beginning and people might whine if he uses it with his first game
well really, if you think about it, because of the gauss weaponry bonus every necron DOES have a heavy weapon. it may not be a very effective heavy weapon, but massed necron shooting is still going to rip right through any tank, or horribly strong model.Originally posted by Wizard@Aug 14 2004, 195
a comment about heavy weaponry i dont wanna find
i do agree necrons arent just a shooty army though, and treating them in the same way someone might treat tau would be a huge mistake.
Necron can move and fire their weapons. Where as a real Heavy weapon can not move and fire. A necron basic weapon is AP5. Most real Heavy weapons are AP3.Originally posted by SendMoreParamedics@Aug 15 2004, 17:54
well really, if you think about it, because of the gauss weaponry bonus every necron DOES have a heavy weapon. it may not be a very effective heavy weapon, but massed necron shooting is still going to rip right through any tank, or horribly strong model.
i do agree necrons arent just a shooty army though, and treating them in the same way someone might treat tau would be a huge mistake.[snapback]198130[/snapback]
Necron basic weapons are 24" range (if you don't move). Most Heavy weapons are 36" range (a lot of others are 48" range). Necron basic weapons are STR4. Real Heavy weapons are STR8 - 7 (but the necron basic weapon can hert anything).
You are right thoe, Gauss does give you a lot of good stuff :lol: ! But I would not say that they all have heavy weapons (they can be as good as them if you are playing a heavy tank army :lol: ). So I agree whith part of what you say not a lot thoe.
Those are some of the reasons why necron are not a "real" shooty army.
Once my army is mobile, it should be really shooty. I definatly won't use ANY Flayed Ones out of personal preference, they look damn stupid. However I may run a unit of three Wraiths to make up for any CC problems, and a bunch of Scarab Swarms when I'm actually fighting a CC army.