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Finally recieved my box of Banshees and my Eldar Codex today in the mail from ebay, I gave them a little wash in soap and now I'm just starting to clean them up before assembling.
However I currantly know very little about Eldar or Banshees (all the gear and powers I mean, I understand how they work though) and I'm not sure how to equip the Exarch and magnetizing isnt an option.
Is there a straightforward build that everyone uses? Or does it vary...
I'm guessing the Executioner option is easiest, or should I use Mirror Swords or "Triskele's" whatever they are.
It depends what you're going for to be honest. The executioner makes you str 5 but the exarch only has 3 attacks when charging, mirror swords are better if you're accompanying the unit with a Doomseer as you'll have 5 attacks rerollable to wound, if you're not taking a doomseer bear in mind that mirror swords leave you at str 3.
I always found Executioner to be a no-brainer... S5 on a banshee exarch is devastating all way round!
Nevertheless, I think that there are some good enough reasons to decide to put the other options on an exarch too... ^^
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Most people prefer the Executioner, but some use the Mirror Swords due to them apparently having almost identical wounds caused statistically (I don't remember where I saw the math at.) The Triskele however, is never used since by shooting with it, you deny yourself a run move, and thus 1-6 inches you'll probably need to reach your opponent considering you have to stay still for a turn in your Wave Serpent before you can assault (can't move the transport and then hop out and assault, you can only shoot after moving and jumping out.)
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I go for the Executioner as well. It is true that it is less essential if you Doom systematically the unit the Banshees are fighting. However I think that as the game goes on, the likelihood that the Banshee unit is reduced to Exarch + a few survivors is quite high. Then you may not want to "waste" Doom just to help a few Banshees, and therefore the higher S of the Executioner becomes very useful.
That's just the way I look at it...
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Haha wow 4 replies so fast, great forum, tyvm everyone.
Executioner it is, however I do love the look of the backwards dagger-like sword that comes with the Mirror Swords, but Executioner still looks fine.
Thanks everyone, nice to know help isnt far away ^.^
Heres a bit of basic mathhammer for exarch comparison, assuming the unit charges
against T4 opponent
mirror sword exarch - 5 attacks - 3.33 hits - 1.11 wounds, if doomed - 1.85 wounds
Executioner exarch - 3 attacks - 2 hits - 1.33 wounds, if doomed - 1.77 wounds
against T3 opponent
mirror sword exarch - 5 attacks - 3.33 hits - 1.66 wounds, if doomed - 2.5 wounds
Executioner exarch - 3 attacks - 2 hits - 1.66 wounds, if doomed - 2 wounds
The executioner has a slight edge against T4 opponents when doom is not in affect, but it is slight, the extra two attacks actually make quite a difference. Of course if you're facing marines on bikes or necron destroyers or anything else that has a higher toughness the executioner will really shine, but it does hugely suffer for only having 3 attacks.
Well I THINK my main opponents will be around MEQ (well better then MEQ...), as the person I will be vsing the most uses Death Guard... So good choice for the Executioner, thanks mate.
I take the executioner for it`s reliability and versatility. Mathhammer is nice but in reality you will have different situations where you will need a weapon that can handle the a t5 individual, some t4 marines or t3 fire warriors as well. You will never have 1.77 wounds , you will hav 1 or 2 and is all bout the probability of having 2 wounds in all situations not against a specific opponent. At least this is how i choose my weapons
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Of course not, mathhammer is about probability so if the mirror swords get a result of 1.85 and the executioner gets a result of 1.77 wounds it just means the mirror swords are MORE LIKELY to cause a second wound in that situation. The law of averages is the only one that has any bearing on the rolling of dice so that should be how we make any decisions.
T5 is very rare, its limited to T4 models on bikes mostly (and I can't remember the last time I saw a SM bike squad) so I didn't think it worth running, however
against T5 opponent
mirror sword exarch - 5 attacks - 3.33 hits - 0.56 wounds, if doomed - 1.01 wounds
Executioner exarch - 3 attacks - 2 hits - 1 wounds if doomed - 1.5 wounds
Against T5 is the only place where the executioner really comes out on top, but as I said T5 is rare and almost exclusively bike mounted, so Banshees are going to have a very difficult time getting the charge off.
I'm still largely happy with my mirror swords because my Farseer almost always rides with the Banshees, more attacks is definitely better when Doom is active.