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Hello, I am Kodiak. If you do not know me, I am just starting to collect Eldar. I really like the Ulthwe (sorry, I have missed out the accent) background detail, but do not like the uniform army colour (black). I do not want to create a new Craftworld. Is it possible for me to create another colourscheme and yet still call it Ulthwe, maybe as another division of the army? Some alternate ideas include maybe red/blue/green/white.
craftworlds in 5e are just fluff. you can be any color, any name, any army list. all eldar use the same codex with the same rules, you get no benefits or drawbacks for picking a certain race. feel free to call it whatever the hell you want, with whatever color you want.
Eldar: W-26, L-4, D-2, Tyranid: W-8, L-0, D-0
I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?
While from gaming point of view shimmy is right, from a fluff point of view i disagree with him.
Ulthwe is about grim, despair, sacrifice and death. They are led by Eldrad and Maugan Ra (Phoenix Lord of tyhe Dark Reapers). They have the Black Guardians (even they are now normal guardians as stats), they have Dark Reapers, farseers and warlocks as mainstray units for the army.
While the aspect warriors are usualy in their shrine colour, they use little of aspect warriors due to the fact many of Ulthwe are on the path of the seer.
you can alter the colour scheme with gems/bags/weapon details etc but in the end Ulthwe is about black. Black in every way and you have to agree their fluff is about blackness. White is ussualy used in Ulthwe colour scheme and i feel you have enough details on Farseer/Warlock models to alter them with other colours even keeping the primary colour scheme.
Now in the end is how you want to keep your feeling about your hobby. cause is a hobby and is about you.
The fluff color of Ulthwe is indeed black and bone. You could run a more elite Ulthwe army with several aspect warrior units. This would give you several units in brighter colors to off set the black of the guardians and vehicles. If anyone gets upset at an Ulthwe army having aspect warriors in it tell them to show you where it says Ulthwe can't get together some aspect warriors if they need them
The other option is to try and make up some sort of fluff to explain why a part of Ulthwe would wear different colors. Maybe something like a group that have dedicated themselves to reviving Eldrad. Make up a reason for the colors you want to use like maybe green and light blue because green is the color of life and the blue respresenting the freedom of the sky. Ok that was a bit cheesy ( maybe very cheesy )but you get the idea.
Almost forgot, welcome to eldar and to LO.
It doesn't matter what color your troops are. You could use a dark dark blue in place of black and it probably woudnt look too different, and would actually probably look better.
If you pick up some of the older codexs, you will get an idea for lots of different color schemes they have. I personally own all the eldar codexs, to give me ideas for painting and of course to read the fluff.
Until Craftworld rules comeback (if they do) it really doesnt matter what they look like. And in all honesty, you could just paint them how you want, give thema different name and then use which ever craftworld rules you want to (if they come back with craftworld rules). It makes no difference really. Like in 4th Edition, Salamanders used the same codex as Ultramarines. Although they were completely different paint schemes and fluff.
From gaming point of view you are right eric...but....
Eldars are using uniforms like all other armies. No Salamander army will be ultramarine blue painted. Is about the relation between the fluff and your army. More than that, Eldar have ritual armours. That`s why all Aspect shrines preserve their colour no matter the craftworld. The disciplined way of war art include every aspect including armour and colour.
But noone will oppose you if you say your purple army is Ulthwe but at least me will smile with a little friendly irony.
Itll just boil down to fluff. But as of now it does not matter because there are no craftworld.
Besides whats wrong with Ulthwes color scheme anyway? They are pretty cool and had they been an option in this editions codex I probahbly would have chose them.
Last edited by Fleeting Ęther; July 12th, 2009 at 22:41.
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Or you could try turning the scheme around, ie, bone armor and black details. Thats ofte done with SM chapters, why not Eldar? AND it gives them this nice bony-death feel...
"Better to crush an ant with a boulder, than flick lazily at it, possibly miss, and then have it bite you in the ass." The Awakened One
Fleething if i remember correctly you are half right.
During the 13`th Black Crusade Maugan Ra was leading the forces of Ulthwe. After that he went into the eye and recovered his people alone (tough man if you ask me). And now (with Eldrad dead and his pupil leading the Ulthwe) he is leading Altansar Craftworld. (hope i remember correctly the timeline but the facts remain).
when i`ll be back home i`ll post the sources for maugan ra leading the Ulthwe forces into battle (probably 2`nd edition codex or craftworld codex if i am right).