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    Help picking between some super heavies & flyers

    I've decided that I would like to purchase a couple of the super heavies and/or flyers from forgeworld.

    Can anyone provide any recommendations? I'm mainly concerned with effectiveness rather than monetary costs/fluff/appearance.

    I've been leaning towards the Vampire Hunter and Revenant titan -although I've also heard a case for the Scorpion > Titan...

    On a side note, what would you guys consider the best apocalypse/large scale army? Are eldar a serious contender?


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    When I read about the super heavies the one that caught my eye as the superior choice was the Cobra, and the new model for it looks pretty darn awesome too. On the other hand I've never played apocalypse or played with any super heavies, so I can't really tell you from experience what works and what doesn't. But on paper the Cobra is what I would have gone with, hard to kill and with a pretty darn sweet weapon.

    Oh, have you seen the sheet for the sunstrike squadron? I think that was its name anyway, a squad of fire prisms, I think it required 7 of them and gave a pretty large blast when linked together. This isn't really a super heavy though, but it might be interesting nonetheless.

    I would imagine Eldar fair pretty poorly in apocalypse in general, since the idea is to play with everything you have collected thus far, with the person with the least points being the guy forced to bring everything. And if you are that guy with an Eldar army you are pretty boned since probably half your stuff won't be what you need against whomever you might be playing. Then again, if you are the guy with the larger army you could do pretty well for yourself. Apart from that I think Eldar are as a serious contender as anyone else.

    In fact I think some of their units are better suited for apocalypse than normal gaming, those being the specialist tank hunters (fire dragons, wraithguard and swooping hawks) since they'd pretty much pulverize your opponents super heavies when they get close. The main problem you'll be facing is having enough transports to keep your army effective.
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    I have a pretty big budget and I'd consider myself a power gamer so I could definitely field the units... I was under the impression that even in largescale or apocalypse battles armies tend to play on even point levels though.

    I was reading a thread earlier that said because eldar were so specialized, they suffered in Apoc games because they couldn't efficiently answer opposing threats -especially if the opposition was a more general army.

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    if you bought loas of aspect warriors, then you copuld probably deal with pretty much anything. as 4 the tanks, i have pretty much no experiance with apocolypse, so i am unsure about the heavy tanks

    i would imagine that imperial guard are probably the best as they can field millions of troops
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    Yes you play even point battles, what I'm saying is that if you have 7000 points where most of it is good against certain opponents and quite lousy against others, and the guy you are playing has 15000 points to choose from, then he can pick 7000 points of units specialized in killing you and you are stuck with maybe 3000 points of your (7000 point) list that is worthless against him.

    If that isn't an issue then you have a fair chance in apocalypse type battles. The same thing can happen in smaller scale battles though..

    Some dude: Hey, how many points of Eldar do you have?
    Eldar player: Roughly 2000 points if I field everything.
    Some dude: Cool, lets play 2000 points this weekend.
    Eldar player: Eh... can't we play with less?
    Some dude: Bah, sissy space elves afraid of a fight?
    Eldar player: Not really.. bu.. *gets cut off*
    Some dude: Well it's settled then, 2000 points on Saturday.

    And you know he will be fielding a green tide Space Ork army with no vehicles or dreds and you are stuck with 1000 points of useless wraithguard and fire dragons just because you had them and can't remove them since then you won't have the points.

    Ok, maybe I exaggerated/simplified it a little, but this does happen, and it can be a real problem. In general you don't want to field everything you have as an Eldar player, you want to tailor a list to specifically deal with the opponent you are playing. And I believe this problem is more common in apocalypse type games than in normal ones due to people wanting the battles to be as epic (large) as possible.

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