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Spore mine Cluster Question.
I have a few questions on the Spore Mine rules. A lot of these questions i have are dependent on the Definition of Spore Mine Cluster found on page 28 and 29 in the codex.
I guess my first question is that it says on page 28 that Biovoes fire Clusters of Spore mines. Is there a difference between the definition of cluster of Spore Mines and Spore Mine cluster?
Spore Mine Clusters
Spore Mines are very basic, geno-modified organisms which the tyranids us as 'living bombs', most commonly launched in clusters from living artillery pieces called Biovores
"Biovores work by firing clusters of Spore Mines towards the enemy."
Whey they say Spore Mine cluster I assume they mean 1-3 Spore Mines that are being shot out of Biovores at a single target and not necessarily the Fast attack entry on pg 43 "Spore Mine Clusters"
Each Biovore in a brood will fire one of the type of spore mines that you purchased for them. These do not cost extra points, and are in addition to any mines you have for FA. I assume they say cluster simply because it is a "cluster" as they are then resolved as a barrage.
Ya i originally thought they were 3 individual shots but it seems it is more like a 3 inch wide spore mine (IE 3 models) that drift around and explode together?
If they miss, yes they become a 1-3 man squad of spore mines. If the first one explodes it's resolved as a barrage. Thus you place the first blast template down. Roll a scatter die for each other spore mine being shot, and place a template touching any currently down (1st or 2nd) in the direction indicated. "Hit" means you can place it in any direction (even on the first on with shot number 3).
Yep i think i get it. It just seems like a shock to me almost. Considering the way it used to work. But i guess its not the rule that just changed as the book has been out for years its just that i finally got around to reading that one part closely.
Now i was thinking it doesn't seem to me that buying 3 Biovores in one squad are as great because you get a 1/3 chance to roll a hit. At least if you had 3 of em one mine would hit per turn if you roll odds.
Now if the shots are grouped up and you can only shoot them together then your only going to get a hit once per 3 turns. I doubt you can get your 150 points back in one turn with 3 small blast templates with the weak damage they do.
I've gotten rather good use out of the Bio-Acid Spore Mine. You'd be surprised the kind of damage you can do to a SM squad with those suckers when you hit. Even missing I've managed to get them to shoot at them instead of something more dangerous. Being able to shell across the map is a major advantage provided by Biovores, that we can't get anywhere else. No to mention relatively adaptable mines, based on the opponent (although here's hoping we can pick which one to fire mid-game in the new codex).
Are biovores Barrage or multiple barrage?
I think I understand the rule better now, but at one point i was trying to figure out if shooting 3 biovores was a single barrage shot with 3 spore mines (one placed as you shoot and other two either blow up on the same target if it hits or are placed next to the first if it misses) or a multiple barrage shot with each mine rolling just the scatter die (not the 2d6 part) after the first shot hits to determine what side of the first blast template the new mine lands on.
I am thinking after reading that it would be a single barrage shot. because the rules read A Brood shoots a cluster of mines resolved as a barrage shot.
On the other hand, if this used the multiple barrage rule you could get quite a large grouping of blast templates. As the templates would all be touching edges it could be 2.5" x 3 mines at most 7.5" total. And on top of that, the rules under detenation read that when one mine in the cluster explodes all of them explode on the same target. "You place the blast template over the target count the targets and multiply by the number of mines in the cluster."
Just kind of throwing my thoughts out there. Any one else know how this should work?
I tried talking to a GW employee and they didnt really know what was going on. They were telling me that they had brood telepathy so they could act indepently on the board (like lictors or zoanthropes) meaning they didnt have to deploy together or shoot at the same target. I had to explain that this just ment they didnt need synapse around them.