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Here is the scenario:
I played a game last week 2 on 2 with marines on my side. And I was going to move my zoanthrope as far as I could to be able to shoot at a land raider. It ended up right behind a rhino.
So I asked with the opponent to verify how he wanted to play it and I asked if it would be fair to say it shoots its psychic attack from his head. Because that’s where I will draw line of sight from. Then I asked since the Zoanthropes head is just over the top of a rhino if it would be a clear shot and anything I shoot at would not get cover saves. Furthermore, since most of my body was covered I would get cover saves from any shots he was going to do next turn.
He said that it wasn’t covered more than 50% for me to receive cover because a majority of its body is based in its head and from the neck down was only a small portion of its body. (asked about something similar in another post and was told that it only needs to be 25% of the model covered by friendly models to receive interveining model cover saves but thats not really the point of this post. It is the next question that follows which is the reason of the post)
How do you play 50% of a model truly? If I cover up just the body of the zoanthrope up to its chin that is over 50% of the height of the model, but possibly not 50% of the mass. Since the heads are so huge.
If the entire shooting model is covered except the head, you can see fine and the target gets no cover. Cover is relative to what the firing model "sees" so if he's poking out over something he can see fine and will probably receive cover if he is in turn shot at.
Hiding a Zoanthrope behind a Rhino is what I'd call a good idea. I'd also play it as firing from the head like you did.
You are correct Silver. Rules as written states exactly that.
Yeah 50% rule only applies to vehicles and MCs. I thought he was arguing that the Rhino had cover as the Zoanthrope was covered, late night reading is bad.
K thanks guys for the clarification.
That picture you posted helps. Since it is a very top heavy model one can make a claim that a zoanthrope covered up to the neck is only truely covering 20-30% of the model. That was my main question how is 50% actually determined. Now if you were talking about a zoanthrope around the corner of a building i think that would be much easier to determine a more exact 50%
But like you were saying that the 50% only applies to tanks and MC.