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Basically I am considering starting orks and was looking for any pointers or advice, not got the codex yet but was just wanting to see what people had to say to see if i like the sound of them.
So far I have collected eldar and necrons and was considering an army with many more models than I am used to
thanks for any help
I'm new to Orks too. I assume you have the codex?
I'm assembling and painting the assault on black reach stuff, which is a good start, but I guess you need boys, boys, boiys. Lots and lots of boys. I'm told you can never have too many.
Another green mean machine! Looks like i pooped over to the orks section at the right.I'm actually a ork pro! Anyway, orks are a very complicated force you'll need lots of them but they are so cheap;they could outnumber a tac squad with a full mob! they also have graet firepower,although they hit on X's (can't say but it's quite difficult) 1 full squad of lootas can dish out 45 str 7 ap 4 shots a turn with a good roll. the main goal for an ork army is actually to close with the enemy simply because a 20 mob can dish out craploads of a attacks and it's even better when you got a nob with a klaw (power fist). Hope this helps.
buy green paint, lots and lots of green paint..
Seriously though, orks require a good bit of patience to paint..
Orks are a pretty simple army to get the hang of. Once you've figured out how to move and charge you've pretty much reached the pinnacle of Ork strategy
Like Orks themselves, your army works best when you focus on one particular aspect: Shooty, Horde, Mekanized, Dreadbash, Bikerz, Battlewagon Brigade, and so on. When Orks are out of their element they tend to fold quickly, and since their counters are available readily if you bring a little of everything your overall effectiveness will be diluted.
Orks have a lot of difficulty with mechanized armies, particularly AV14. Lootas can only do so much and everything else is either unreliable or prohibitively expensive.
The Assault on Black Reach is the best way to get started with Orks: lots of cheap models with Space Marines, a pocket rulebook, templates, and some dice. You can get rid of the Marines, maybe even trade them out for another set of the Orks. And you can never have enough dice and templates.
What sort of army were you thinking of building towards? Do you have an eye for competitive play or is this just going to be a more casual army? You seem to have experience with your previous armies, so that should help you figure out what gap in playstyles you've got that you want your Orks to fill.
==Me==, I've been playing Marines forever. The new Ork book came out and I was sold. I picked up a crap ton of Orks and started my 2nd army. Flash forward a couple years and they're my favorite army. They aren't the most consistent or competitive, but easily the most fun to play casually. ==My== marines are more shooty, mech and reliable; ==My== Deathwing/Ravenwing is mobile and elite. ==My== Orks are choppy, bring loads of Battlewagons, and have all sorts of fun units like Lootas, Meganobs and Deff Koptaz. I got way too much stuff early on and now I have a huge collection that mostly collects dust. Don't just buy stuff willy nilly, have a plan and stick to it before you end up with over 2000 points of models you never use...
Good luck and welcome to da Waagh!
Thanks for the comments guys, great help.
Well in the past i feel that my other armies have been very shooty so I was thinking of leaning more towards the choppy side of things.
That said I love the sound of the lootas and all the Mekanized units look amazing.
i think that at these early stages I was leaning towards the horde side of things (I like the idea of completely outnumbering the enemy) but at the same time I like the mekanized units, can they still find places in a horde list or would I need to rethink my plans.
I think overall all I can say for sure is that i have no idea what makes up the different kinds of lists and was just attracted from a distance without much of an idea of what they can do, does that make any sense?
Army wise I will mainly just be playing casually at my club yet at the same time i would probably want something that i could use in competitive play if the opportunity came up
Purchase wise I don't have the codex yet but was considering getting it soon and model wise I was thinking of getting the battleforce, would I be better off getting the assault on black reach models then?
Last edited by Ikras; October 30th, 2009 at 11:44.
Have you checked out 'the basics' thread yet? If not:
A few people, including myself, put it together as a basic guide for new Ork players. I'd definitely check it out, if you haven't already.
Overall, you should decide what type of Ork army you want to play. It's important because the four main types are very different in composition, and although a 'mixed' style can work, you're better off primarily focusing on one type:
1. Mechanized (AKA 'Speed Freaks'): usually this means at least one battlewagon, a few trukks, bikes, warbuggies, lootas, stormboyz, warbosses, and nobz. A solid and competitive build, but at the same time it's a bit fragile and risky.
2. Horde: several large groups of boyz, lootas, big gunz, kommandos, big meks, grots, warp eads, and killa kans. A slower force, but with a lot more staying power and resilience than speed freaks.
3. Shooty: shoota boyz, lootas, big gunz, shokk attakk gunz, looted boomguns, and deffkoptas. A fun and destructive army, but may have trouble against tougher vehicles.
4. Walkers: 9 killa kans, 2 deff dreads, kustom force fields, and a few troops for claiming objectives. It may or may not work, but I guarantee it'll be fun...as long as you convert the models out of spare parts. The official killa kan and deff dread models are ridiculously expensive.
Good luck! ^_^
"Any job worth doing, is worth doing with a powerklaw."
Been looking up models on ebay and considering trying to get 40 boys from the assault on black reach set and maybe 10 nobs, will probably try and get the warboss from that as well.
2 quick questions on these, the boys from that set, do they have the full range of options when it comes to assembling them and does this sound like a good starting purchase?
Definitely aiming horde list now i think, love most of the models that you have listed there.
might try out the speed freak later on when I have more money for the vehicles
Black Reach Orks only have sluggas and choppas, 2 have big shootas. Nobs are all choppas and sluggas. They're easy enough to convert with bitz.
In fact, AoBR nobz are a bit ugly and static. A box of nobz, wich has LOTS of bitz, will give them a boost and will give you all the nobz you will need at least for starters
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