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i have recently come upon a problem that i want an answer to although i think i may already have it... it never hurts to check though
Anyway, when you take a painboy in a nobz unit does he replace a nob? i am asking this because in the codex on one of the sample lists it shows 5 nobs PLUS the painboy as an extra model. So does this mean if you take a full squad of 10 nobz plus the painboy the WHOLE squad numbers 11 models for the purposes of buying transports?
thanks in advance!
One Nob is upgraded to a Painboy, so max unit size is 10 (9 nobs plus 1 Painboy).
==Me== is correct.
The only units where there's some confusion regarding size limit are, as far as I'm aware, the ones that have special characters that are added to the unit, instead of upgrading a member of the unit: kommandos, stormboyz, and flash gitz.
There's some confusion if the size limit includes the extra model or not. Has anyone heard anything about this?
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I never use Zagsuck or Badruckus so I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that Snikrot replaces the normal Nob option, so max unit size is still 15 for Kommandoz.
Both Zagstruk and Snikrot replace the nob so the printed limit stands but Badrukk is in addition to the unit so he adds to a max size of 10 making 11 which is probably to allow them to be fearless if that makes a difference.
One of the problems I have had with wording is for the painboy cost because it says a nob may be a painboy whereas for other similar listings it says something is upgraded to something else.
So for a painboy do you pay 20pts for Nob then extra 30 meaning the painboy effectively costs 50pts
do you pay 30pts for the painboy in place of paying 20 for the nob?
They don't replace the nob, they forbid the nob upgrade from being taken.
Codex are fairly specific with character, model upgrades and or replacments, of which Sniktrot Badrukk and Zag are not, they are essentially wargear for the unit.
The wording is consistent for all boss entries, these two (Snikt & Zag) have the qualifier that one may choose to not take a character upgrade (replacing a boy with a nob) and may take this upgrade instead (which doesn't specify model replacement).
If one wants to play it the other way I won't kick and scream, but it's actually written and seemingly intended that Snikt leads the unit of 15 Kommandos etc etc he's not a model replacement or upgrade. It’s a bad example but I don’t have another codex on me to find an accurate one, if one said that taking a deffrolla on a battle wagon cost both 20pts and the 5 pts for the Ramm because the rolla disallows the Ramm upgrade.
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Thanks for the advice- that's cleared it up!
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