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Two questions about these heavily armed and armoured arrogant boyz.
1. I've looked through a few army lists, and don't often see any Gitz in there, why is this?
2. As far as I know there are no actual models for Flash Gitz (yet), how have you gone about converting existing models to look like flash gitz?
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1) They're garbage, seriously, worst unit in the book.
2) Convert from Nobs, just add bitz ntil they look like hip hop stars
Please back it up. I think that blanket statements like this one are pointless. Give a reason.
Because a unit of Nobz with better guns really doesn't sound that bad to me.
5pts more than a basic Nob. Same stat line. More Dakka makes them Assault 2.....Str 5.....AP D6.
I just feel like this is a unit that is worth making the conversions for. That being said...I think they are Freebooters...like Baddrukk...I am working on a unit...I grabbed these to help out.
Last edited by Donelbayne; January 14th, 2010 at 13:30.
Well, I would say that the reason gitz aren't as good as regular nobs is the following:
Cannot take bosspoles, so their LD is questionable
Cannot take power klaws, so simply do not have the combat potential of nobz
Cannot be taken as troops, so just use up a HS spot that could go to Kans, Looted Wagons, Battlewagons, or Kannons, all of which are better options for various reasons in most situations
Compete for the same role (anti-infantry shooting) as Lootas, who have a greater strength and a greater range, and Shoota boys, who are cheaper, collectively have more shots, and can hold objectives
At almost twice the cost of lootas, they'll be hard pressed to do the same damage from shooting. For their points they'll also be rocked in combat. That is why Flash Gitz are never taken. Now, I have heard of the possibility of using Badruk, 5 gitz & 3 ammo grots and just relying on Badrukk to smoke things with S7 AP2, but I have not personally done it.
Ninja'd by Gorfang!
Well, let's see.
You're paying a ton of points for a unit of Nobs with single shot weapons (BS2 hoo boy!) with the option to make them slightly better at a big points increase (still too few shots for the points, not handy against vehicles), no PKs, no bosspole (unless you get Badrukk or add an IC), no transport options, and they take up a Heavy Support slot (they aren't Kanz, Battlewagons, or Big Gunz).
For the exorbitant points cost you can grab a lot more Shoota boyz for a superior firepower unit that can get a PK, bosspole, and scores.
Last edited by ==Me==; January 14th, 2010 at 14:10. Reason: ninja'd
twin linked shootas have range of 18" st 4 ap 6 and 2 shots, Snazzgun haz a range of 24" st 5, ap D6, and assault 1. So best case from a 5 man squad twin linked shootas get 10 shots at st 4 ap 6 where glitz best case get 10 shots st 6, Ap1.
so how are nobs better at shooting. nobs st 4 cant punch a vehicle but st 6 ap 1, the snazzgun can pop anything less then armor 12.
nobs get powerklaws and boss poles true but badrukk gets a boss pole and leadership 9 and with st 6 ap 1 glitz can pop vehicles from 24 inches (advioding explosion) where nobs are base to base.
flash glitz cannot have a dedicated transport but can be transported by anything empty, same as burnas, and lootas.
nobs and glitz have option of eavy armor and cybork.
I see flash glitz as a nob squad with better weapons to be used as death from a distance insted of face to face like most nobs.
I use flash glitz in almost all my lists and they have never let me down
So you're comparing Flash Gitz to Nobs w/ tl shootas, why?
For the price of that Flash Gitz mob you can field 30 Shootas and then some. Which is the superior shooting unit? Like I even have to ask.
Flash Gitz popping armor is assuming quite a bit, you only get AP1 on 1 roll (2 if you pay even more). Why pay that much when Lootas are far better, cheaper, and have a longer range?
Sure they can take an empty ride, so now you're wasting 2 Heavy slots on them. Fail.
Check out this thread (You're Better Off With Grots: Flash Gitz Reconsidered) for a pretty decent analysis of the unit by mynameisgrax.
30 shootas with a 18" reach st 4 ap 6 how many kills will that get you, glitz have a better stat line, you have a 50% chance of ap 1-3 which void armor saves of almost everything. almost everything has a armor save vs shootas but not snaz guns. even if you roll ap 6 the gun is still st 6 ap X assault 2.
lootas do have more range, and a stronger weapon but have no assault ability, and no armor save, as well as 1 wound just like your shoota boyz.
and for your comment about taking an empty ride; shoota boys dont get a dedicated vehicle unless there are only 12. sorry man you fail. You are only impressing yourself.
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30 shootas can get themselves on an objective, they can also have a PK and BP, and they don't need a transport. I would say gitz need to get close fast to start paying their points back. They can't do it by scoring like boyz can and if the enemy doesn't have any MEQs then it's gonna be whole lot harder to make back said pts.
I will say that gitz do the ranged MEQ killing thing better than other Orks, just not point for point better.
I know I'm not a mod, but lets not start insulting people.
If you call it a Missile launcher, then it'll never hit anything.
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