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Hey, I've been playing this game off and on for about 3 years.
I currently have necrons, but because of codex problems
I started looking for an alternative. I found Eldar and have been
hooked ever since. The background really interests me.
But, since I'm new to eldar I havea few questions.
Is the battleforce box worth it? What would be a good way of
starting up with eldar?
The eldar codex doesn't seem to include the wargear choices
or am i just blind xD. Correct me if im wrong.
A pure jetbike army looks really fun, how does it play
in friendly matches and such?
Any helpful questions would be greatly appreciated ( +1 Rep =D )
Hey and welcome.
The battleforce box isn't really worth it, War Walkers and Guardians are rarely used and 5 Dire Avengers is just a tease, the only good part is the Wave Serpent.
The standard way to start with Eldar is 2 Wave Serpents, 2 boxes of Dire Avengers and a Farseer. This is roughly 600 points. To expand the list most people get a third Wave Serpend with either Howling Banshees(full group, i.e. 2 boxes) or Fire Dragons(6, i.e. one box) in it and Fire Prisms up to the max of 3. That gives you around 1200 points and covers most lists you will see that regularly perform well.
Jetbike armies play quite well (especially with a group of Warlocks on bikes with a Farseer), but are very expensive to buy. There's a guy named Fritz that plays Saim-Hann Eldar and has a lot of nice guides and tips about how to play them well, his blog is called WayOfSaimHann. (my spelling may be off) It may not be the best competetive build, but works well enough to be fun and will be more than enough for friendly games.
The guardians can be easy dire avengers, and the warwalkers are amazing unit when used carefully.
Tbh first proxy some lists and see what really fit you before buying.
See if you like Saim Hann (yes fitz is a good tip here) or Ultwe lists or regular mech or even some other strange list.
Hight elf and Craftworld Eldar army project pics heavy: linky
I just want to say that the battle force box can be a good deal. It does come down to if you plan on using guardians and/or warwalkers. I picked up 2 of them which gave me a full dire avenger unit ( a solid troop choice ) 2 waveserpents ( very useful in most eldar lists ) 2 warwalkers ( a unit that can be very powerful if a bit fragile ) and then the 2 guardian units. I play Ulthwe so getting guardians wasn't a problem to me, it ended up saving a decent amount of cash. Now if you only buy 1 ( because of the half avenger squad ) or don't want to use guardians/warwalkers it generally isn't a good investment.
If you buy this set and know other eldar players its certainly not a bad idea, as for what your paying isn't bad, and you might be able to sell parts you don't need to other players.
I started my Eldar army by splitting the cost of two battleforces with another player. He got the walkers and the guardians, I got the avengers and the serpents.
Thanks for the post everyone. I'm most likely going to go the way Inian suggested.
BTW just wondering what the predominant tactics with this army is. Cause I've been looking around and noticed that the characters, troops and all that are really fragile.
Playing Eldar can be summed up quite nicely: Strike hard, strike fast, and keep out of harms way. Other than that it's difficult to be general about it. You have units that are exceptionally powerful at one thing, so don't waste them on the wrong enemy units. Your speed (although relatively less advantageous now in 5th compared to before) will let you attack vulnerable spots and keep harm at a distance. Timing is important, and so is unit synergy (Farseer w. Doom and Banshees for example). And lastly, something that goes for all armies, focus on the mission objectives, and have fun!
Last edited by Inian; February 18th, 2010 at 19:17.
If you´re interested in a jetbike army, go for it. It is really fun and competitive, too. But you´ll need some matches until you get used to the style.
Isn´t here a tactia concerning jetbike heavy armies in the sticky section? I think I read something here on LO. And yes, a Saim Hann Army and Fritz are really good tips