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Quick question. I was wondering if farseers count as being Spiritseers in terms of passing wraithsight. Or do I HAVE to buy a warlock and upgrade him to a spiritseer?
A warlock does the same role as a spiritseer, but must be within 6" for the WL/WG to not test for wraithsight (all psychers provide this benefit)
A spiritseer on the other hand must only be within 12" to remove wraithsight.
This being said the 'unit' as opposed to the models needs to be within 6" or 12" so proper positioning should acheive this anyway.
So if you join a wraithguard squad of less than 10 with a warlock you don't need to upgrade to a spiritseer, for it to be a troop however at 10 models you still need to upgrade it. (more wasted points /sigh)
I found troop wraithguard to be absolutely sweet!
Conceal them and fortune them... I know that is more than 400pts in one unit, but believe me: not considering strokes of luck/jinx they will last forever and hold an objective for aeons! =)
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I mean its wasted points asin that our codex is full of overpriced upgrades that all the new codexes get for nothing (in many cases).
Its definately an amazing unit, but it could do with a point balance.
We really do need a codex re-vamp... rumors in Italy say the next two should be dark eldar and craftwprld eldar.
We just have to sit and keep our fingers crossed! =)
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Any psyker counts, including a harlequin shadowseer. To answer your question: Yes. A Farseer counts, since he is a psyker.
Like it was mentioned previous, a SPIRITseer is an upgrade for the warlock, that increases the range required to provide wraithsight from 6 inches to 12.
If I'm not babysitting my wraithlords with a Harlequin, I'll have a warlock with guardians, scatter laser or EML, and upgrade him to a shadow seer, and give the squad Conceal. It suddenly becomes a very powerful firebase
Thanks for the thorough answers guys!
Farseer = Psyker = 6" range for wraithsight
Warlock = Psyker = 6" range for wraithsight
Shadowseer (Harlequin) = Psyker = 6" range for wraithsight
Eldrad = Psyker = 6" range for wraithsight
Spiritseer (Warlock) = Psyker + special rule gives 12" range for wraithsight
The reason that having to take a spiritseer with the 10 wraithguard to make it a troop choice is percieved as a waste of points it because the warlock is always in that unit, so will always be 'in range' for wraithsight. being forced to spend 6 points to give him an extra 6" coverage for wraithsight which he'll possibly never need (depending on your army list) is pretty crap.