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What do people usually run against DE? I think my potential opponent will run many skimmers / or whatever will give him the most lance weapons.
How do you play against a Codex that is still mostly based in the 2nd edition rules? What sort of 'cheating' can I expect?
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You got to prepare as You would prepare against a trukk heavy ork army.
You will need one or two KFF, as he might have loads of dark lances/ disentegrator. If You are unlucky, disentegrators, they are strong enough to pop Your tanks or with a nice template disentagrate your boyz.
Lootaz and grotzookaz are Your friends.
if he will have wytches, that is even worse, they going to dice Your nobz/MANz.
Go shootie as he will strike first. The warriors are not that good in cc but they still have a good WS&I combo, he can force You to run. He can field loads and loads of firepower. I advice to take a look on the DE army lists.
They have only a couple of competitive built but they are very competitive (and expensive like a SoB army). Full of open topped skimmers "gunboats". He assault like You but strike first... The codex is not broken but no viable choices, that`s why we want an upgrade.
Against de just take a few zzzap guns and the rest can be foot slogging shoota boyz with rokkits and pretty much hes gunna be stressing when you roll to hit his av10 vehicles as they pop at the first chance.
Lootas blow those Raiders up nice and proper. I'd recommend deff dreads and killa kans, with big meks as well to give them a decent cover save against the inevitable dark lances. If he runs Wyches (like most DE players do) you want to run Walkers into him where all his power weapons and so forth do diddly-squat. He may run his HQ choice with a 2+ invuln save, which is a pain in the proverbial, just pile the wounds on him and eventually he'll roll a one, then the save goes down to 5+. Don't try to Horde him because DE can run rings around you while you struggle to keep up. I'd recommend shoota boyz instead of slugga boyz because the concentrated Str 4 fire on his open-topped vehicles often Wrecks them.
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Thanks for the input peeps. For clarification, the 'cheating' I refer to is interpretting the 2nd edition rules for 5th edition. There are some GW documents that address this but from other players that have played him, it seems that he 'bends' the rules. I hope this is not the case but seeing how I only know Orks, it may be an opportunity for him.
I've plenty of shoota boys and 8 Lootas + Big Mek. 4 Trukks, 6 Deffkoptas, buncha meganobs, mega warboss, regular warboss, 9 nob bikers. This isn't an army list, just what I have to choose from right now. Some Storm boys too.
What would you equip the Kill Kans, or Deff Dread with against some DE crazies?
A little bit of Old Zog generally takes care of pesky Characters. I've turned a character or two into squigs, and the look of astonishment is too incredible to leave him out.
What does your army list look like?
I'd just fight the DE like everyone else....dakka dakka smack on the head. Oh, they first came out in 3rd edition, if it matters....
The army list changes a lot so I'm not really set on any one method. I was just curious what I could expect from a DE player and how to counter it.