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I was just wondering if you could have a successful Tau army that doesn't use any XV8's expect for the Commander and his bodyguard?
IMHO. No. Not at all. To do so is to sacrifice about the only source we have of high-strength/low-AP weaponry.
Don't do it.
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Do you mean plasma rifles? or does that include missile pods and fusion blasters as well?
Without Crisis suits you are basically limiting your firepower to STR4/5 and STR10. In a take-all-comers army you need a variety of weaponry. Crisis suits are your only source of long ranged, STR6/7 multi-shot weapons which makes them versatile enough to kill vehicles, MCs and they are moderately effective against infantry. Of course, this differs depending on the load-out, but suits with missile pods and whatever else you prefer tend to be the most effective. If you want to be competitive, you need crisis suits.
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XV8's are also great for a good twin linked flamer/mpod platforms. I love em, use em every chance I get.
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Ok thanks for the advice
Having no evidence or experience to back this up, I'm kind of wondering if it would be possible.
(I'm also rather tired today so take that in to account if I say anything stupid...)
Yes it would be a rather limited list and probably wouldn't fare well against certain builds, but it could be a bit of fun.
If you took a hefty amount of pathfinders, a whole bunch of seeker missiles (on Devil-fishes and perhaps Piranhas?), and plenty of hammerheads, you might be able to compensate for the lack of XV8s. Maybe not entirely, but you might get close. I guess the only way to see if it works is to try it!
It still wouldn't work. Seeker missiles are single use weapons and you can only get 2 per vehicle. To make the most use out of them you would need 2 fire warrior squads with markerlights and devilfish, plus 2-3 pathfinder squads with markerlights and at least 1 sky ray. That's a minimum of 18 + (2* number of piranhas).
But in order to make it work you still have to hit at BS3 then hit at BS5, that's a 42% hit rate on a single shot weapon that you are relying on for most of your firepower.
There is a reason everyone uses Crisis suits, and that's because they are the only unit that can perform in their high strength/low AP role, seeker missiles can aid them but cannot replace them as they do not have the versatility, reliability or sheer volume of fire.
absolutely. in fact many succeseful lists don't include them (including a couple of mine). they are a large help in most others though. i usually run a torch squad with an MP a flamer and 1 twin-linked flamer. however i beleive M.O.M sums it up best, without them you give up a large amount of versitile fire power.
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What do all you use them for?