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Hello, all! I've been thinking of starting a new army sometime soon, and I've narrowed it down to either Chaos Marines or Necrons. I'm leaning towards the necrons, but I have a few important questions first.
1. If I buy the army now, what are the chances the models will be redone in the near future? I've heard rumor that the army will be updated sometime this year, and I don't want to have to re- buy tons of models.
2. Is the army still competitive? I know it's quite an old codex, and I know old doesn't automatically equal bad, but on paper it seems to me that the army is very restricted and expensive. Maybe that's just my inexperience.
3. Is there a cheaper way to get (or make) Immortals and Pariahs? $13.50 is just nuts for a single infantry model, and I would love to know a way to get a unit for less than $130...
Thanks for any advice.
1. We are due for an update soon, but since most of our models are plastics and good we probably won't have many models redone and instead will get new models for new units. If any are redone it will probably be our expensive pewter models
2. Sadly we aren't. A lot of our special rules are ineffective and most of our units just aren't cost effective.
3. Cheapest thing to do is to convert them or find a great deal. The only unit you'll probably have to worry about are Immortals though since our other pewter units are somewhat lack luster
1. Rumours have been floating about for quite a while now. We are due for an update, but nobody knows when. But it will probably be after Dark Eldar. I would reason end of 2010/2011. But the great thing is that if they do re-do Necrons, we will likely keep the basic core of the army. Destroyers, Warriors, Monolith... these won't be disappearing. Just like Tactical Squads, Bikes and Rhinos are in every Space Marine army. Like CrownAxe said, if any models do get re-done, it will very likely be the expensive metal models.
2. Codex Creep hasn't done us any favours and the new vehicle damage rules in 5th edition (cannot destroy on a Glancing Hit) pretty much negated the one advantage our army had. That said, I've been quite successful with my Necrons. We have solid infantry and a reliable core, but yes the army lists are quite restrictive and there are very few competitive builds. You will have a harder time against new armies such as Space Wolves or Tyranids, but it's not impossible. Necrons are now quite a difficult army to play well, but many of us see it as a challenge.
3. Many people make plastic Immortals by using larger plastic Torsos from the Destroyer and using two Necron Warriors guns combined into one. Pariahs are much harder and to do, but Pariah aren't that good anyway.
I wanted to support what Ravendove said about Necrons being a more challenging army now. I've been successful too. The biggest trick I do in 5th edition is stear clear of ALL close combat. My warriors rarely see battle until late in the game. Mainly because once I'm at 12" to rapid fire I'm also in assault range and sweeping advances kill us horribly.
Other than that, we are quite durable and yes we lost our ability to insta kill stuff with glances...preventing it from shooting is JUST as effective (even though you don't get a KP from it).
"There is only do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
1. Core units, the Warriors, Scarabs and Destroyers, are very unlikely to be redone and they will most probably remain core units in any new codex, too.
2. There is really two opinions of this, but I must say that even though the codex is old and very few people play it the few Necron armies that did participate in last Throne of Skulls Grand Tournament did pretty well.
3. Warriors to Immortals conversion should be pretty straight forward. Pariahs... well, that might prove nasty.
Last edited by Polaria; March 9th, 2010 at 18:58.