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OK everyone, let's be serious here. No one really gives a crap about Dark Eldar that much, especially GW itself.
So, lets put ALL of our opinions into this thread, discuss it, and then choose someone to write a HUGE and logical letter to GW on what we'd like to see from GW, and a 4th edition codex.
Post ALL of your opinions here, but now stupid ones that would seriously unbalance the game.
I'm rather tired at the moment, so I'll post mine later.
However, anything relevant will be appreciated.
It's about time we took action on the course of the Dark Eldar. I mean, Bolter & Chainsword can make threads, and GW will look through them and make changes by their ideas.
So by god, why can't we DE players on L-O do something???
"And whoever wants to be a creator in good and evil, must first be an annihilator and break values. Thus the highest evil belongs to the greatest goodness: but this is--being creative."
~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~
What do I want to see in 4th Ed? I want Ninjas! AYAH! :ninja:
No seriously, I want new models. I want new Hellions. Plastic, better looking Hellions would be great. And A NEW LORD! PLEASE! I have 5 Lord models and none of them are the original. They are all converted because the DE Lords are the worst models ever. I would also like to see some slaves/sex slaves/prisoners as extras in the Warriors sprue. I mean, Space Marines get an auspex, and don't get me started on the Chaos Marines sprue! They get power weapons and heavy bolters in their plastic sprues! HEAVY BOLTERS! POWER WEAPONS! Like I said, some prisoners. I think every DE Warriors box should come with 4 prisoners. One is a Space Marine, one is IG, one is an Ork and the other is a Witchhunter . Every Wych blister should also have one random prisoner. Either a Genestealer, Tau Fire Warrior or a Chaos Marine. WE NEED PRISONERS! We could always convert prisoners, but screw that. I've converted enough due to the crappiness of GW DE Lords.
Everything else is great. IMO we have the best looking transport vehicles in the whole game. Incubi look amazing and Warriors are perfect. Jetbikes are flawless and Wyches are great. I wouldn't want them any other way.
R U 0K!??!? BUHHHHST WUUUULFFFFF!!!
Wyches could use a little work.Helions currently look like Batman villains.It makes me sad to look at them.And why are all they all bald?! For the love of god at least give the women some bloody hair! We've spent so many hours converting my brothers poor DE army because the models we started off with,to be honest,all looked like crack addicts in spikey armour. I don't really like thw current wapr beast models either to be honest, a little more diversity wouldn't help them either.As far as the codex they should touch a bit more on the fluff.They should do a races codex from the perspective of that race,not from the Imperium's perspective.There's a buncha other stuff too but I can't rememebr..I'll check with my brother and get back to you...he's the DE specialist around here..
Well, all codices should really have more fluff. I think 4E is much better than 2E, but 2E has 4E soundly beat in terms of fluff.
I know the beginnings of a similar project are stirring around over at EO, but I'll gladly contribute anywhere, so long as it can get the DE some boosts all around.
I'll edit in any revisions I can think of later on, as I don't trust my computer to not crash on me.
AS far as models ,painting and conversion go..
Dark Eldar Lords-Ok
Special Chars (Y)
Wych-Ok, look a bit outdated now..
Grotesques-Ok, don't look like they are that bothered about killing people..
Warp Beast-Ok, not enough variation, all warp creatures shold be different.
Raiders- Good, but a they could be made a bit better.
Reaver jet bikes- (Y)
Helions- (N) lol. That says it all
Ravagers- (Y), could attach guns to deck.
Talos- (Y), but should have a prisinor being tortured and mroe spikey stuff.
Well that everything i can think up about the model.
New models could possibly be slaves, some massive creature, like warp beast only bigger. Apart from that nothing else i can think of, and i know nearly nothing about DE ATM.
2 ither things i found out are
1-Codex Dark Eldar is a seperate codex and will not be part of Codex Eldar.
2-Gamesworkshop does not have any Dark Eldar launches set on the calendar, and i think that goes on for a year, i don't know if that means next September or January.
Hope some of that helps
+If it moves, torture it+
The last message recievd from the Dark eldar Dracon Ferilus, the only person who ever tried to make a Bloodthirster cry
What did happen to Eldrad Ulthran anyways?....
Hehe that is really interesting... hmmm...
Well the models I want changed are the scourges, as they have the potential to look cooler., as well as the warriors. THey are so basic, no detail in them. In fluff pictures they look good, the way they should be. A LOrd as I said can be as big as an avatar really.
The jetbikes and all the ships are worth staying the same. THey all look pretty good, except a minor change to make the ravager look a little different than the ravager.
The incubi look good enough, maybe a change if possible..
grotesque and mandrakes are junky models, I don't think they should even be there, scrap them. A Haemonculus looks good, good enough.
Special characters aren't that bad. LEaving em maybe.
Fluff, bah I don't care... spend time making more models!!!!
all in all dark eldar models definately needed this changing thing.
man this makes me think, I am finding a good lot on ebay and am wondering to go for it, but then, all these models will get changed... dam...
"There is no middle ground. Strike Hard, strike fast and strike first."
well it can't be that hard for Gw to make some more fluff all they have to do is sit one guy down for a while and have him write.
also, i think that the mandrakes need revision definetly the grotesques and make the wyches more gladitorial like and so on and so forth i think that wyches should come in a boxed set. (give them like shiedls ans spears (okay maybe not spears but you get the idea))
the warriors are okay
i absolutely hate the DE lord i converted both of mine from scratch not even using a DE model in them
talos needs more torture stuff on it
ravager is fine
scourges look cool but make them like daemonettes in armour with their cool wings and i'll be satisfied.
I won't play DE or their cousins until they make them look halfway decent. I really dislike the DE models the most. In fact, I think they have the dorkiest "evil" models in the game.
It really sucks too, because they are an awesome army, rules wise, but their models just repulse me.
:realmad: How about the obvious.
Allow us to equip Raider squad troops with Splinter pistols and CCWs so they get 2 base attacks in HtH. How many other "pirate" forces are afraid to get into HtH due to 1 attack, low str, and low toughness. This has never made any sense to me. I can do that with my Chaos who have higher stats in all the above.
Edited for spelling errerz.
I agree, it drives me nuts to know that every other army has the ability to take a basic unit that is equipped with a pistol/ccw.
The best Idea I can come up with would be to count the splinter rifle much like the Kroot rifle. All the combat blades grant an additional attack in close combat. Heck they could even make it so it does not give them an extra attack on the charge and I would be happy. The splinter rifle has more sharp blades than the kroot rifle, so I donâ€™t see how this would be a problem.
I would also like to see Dark eldar get "incubi armor" added to their wargear. They could even add restrictions like... "A model in incubi armor may not ride a jet bike." The armor would also remove fleet of foot, witch is fine by me as the lord and incubi canâ€™t fleet of foot anyway.
I have to agree that the Lord Models need a bit of work, I am sure a GW sculptor can come up with something good.