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OK, i know i've been a little active in this forum since i found it a couple of days back, so please excuse a noob who loves to kick his Space Marine loving friends behind! So I am calling all fellow Orkers to assist me in my Waaaggghh!!!!
So because i bought a deff dread and Ghaz, he has gone out and bought Marnius Calgar, a Land Radier, and a Venerable Dreadnaught...
I'm sure Gaz and a squad of meganobz will make for an interesting fight with Marnius and his honour gaurd, and I'm sure the venerable dread is just as easy to kill as a regular dread... but the Land Raider!?!?! That beast has 14 armour all around!!!
I'm thinking Ghaz could take it out, with a strenght 10 attack with his power klaw... but what do you fellow Orkers think of equipping my deff dread with loads of close combat weapons, and advancing with my 3 Kanz as a shield and using the deff dread and Kanz (if any survive with their close combat weapons) to smash the land raider to bits??? Other than that, I can't think of anything other than a zzzap gun which has the power to knock that thing out?
Any thoughts??? Also I'm sure my space marine friend will be reading this thread to get insights into what i might do so variety of strategies will be very welcome!
Thanks guys for all the advice you guys have given me so far! and thanks in advance for all future advice. This forum has been a fantastic find, and i thank Gork and Mork for leading me here!!!
Land Raiders are VERY difficult for Orks to deal with. Generally, they only have 3 reliable ways to deal with them (besides ignoring them and just focusing on the rest of his army).
1. Deffrollas. Thanks to the errata, we now know that the deffrollas work on vehicles, allowing each ram against them to inflict d6 S10 hits.
2. Powerklaws. Warbosses and Ghaz are the best, with S10, but a normal S9 klaw is nothing to sneeze at.
3. Tankbustas. Tankhammers and tankbusta bombz will do the trick, as long as the Land Raider isn't moving too quickly.
"Any job worth doing, is worth doing with a powerklaw."
Yep, grax covered it. Orks have a tough time with AV14, your best bet is to go after his support and go after the Raider once it's all alone.
Meganobs will get pasted by Calgar and HG, they ignore armor and Marneus insta-kills them.
So you wouldn't reccomend trying to use kill kanz or a deff dread on it???
Also what about a Zzap gun mounted on a battlewagon and/or trukk? Or even a Shokk attack gun?
So ==Me== How would you recommend dealing with Marnius?
Zzaps and SAGs are too random, Kanz and Dreads won't be able to catch it (or end up hittin on 6's).
Marnues lays waste to Nobs thanks to his super duper fists and EW, so your best bet is a Warboss (T5, won't be insta-popped), embedded Nobs (normal Boyz units), or just massed attacks/shooting.
one word. zoggy
Yeah I was thinking of using old Zogwort... that'd annoy him good and proper!
Id recommend Trukks and reinforced rams. You can get the powerklaw close fast or if you get the chance you can tank shock it. Hopefully you can get out and attack quickly. At the very least you can force them to walk. 2 groups of trukk boys cost the same points as one LRC.
Also try a group of Defkoptas with tl rokkits. They are a long shot but you can surely get to that nice AV14 side armor turn one.
Last edited by blu_saber; April 9th, 2010 at 00:44. Reason: spelling
The problem with using 'copters on the Land Raider is that I can't get better than a glancing... he uses a tech marine so there is always a fair chance any weapon destroyed or immobilised result will be 'fixed'.
Whilst concerned, I'm actually really happy he bought these models, it forces me to use my army in new ways. This is the fun of 40K every week one of us will buy a model (or 3) that will scare the living bujesus out of the other and it forces us to come up with new strategies... I understand now how the cold war arms race escalated the way it did.