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Ok if you have Immortals and built them you know how damn fidgety they are when it comes to constructing the weapon front with the bulk of the weapon.
For those that don't know the Immortal weapon has 3 parts as shown in the attached image the rest of the model is in one piece. The red is the front of the gun, the blue is the main body of the gun and an arm, the yellow is the other arm. The green rods slip into the gap of the boy of the gun and the front.
The problem I'm having is how to fix the front to the gun?
Do I fit it before painting?
The issue with fitting it before painting is to do with the green rods and the ability to fit them in without knocking the front off (it's very tight even without the front on it!)
Do I paint it all then glue the front and the rods in place all at once?
Not only that there is a really small area to glue the front to the main body and if I glue the front on first and discover that the two flanges at the top and bottom are too close I will not be able to fit the rods in!
Oh and how do you make sure the front is on straight since these parts are a lot smaller than my finger tips I can not see if I have misaligned something when I'm trying to fix it!
Just how did you guys get around this and what is the best way to do it?
Does anyone else think these things should be slightly bigger?
Any and all tips are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
The old model Lord I use had Warscythe with a similar "tip" which was fitted to the end of the green rod. What I did with the Lord was to paint and varnish the Lord and the tip separate. Then I first glued the tip into the green rod, let the glue dry up and then finished the setup by glueing the green rod into the Warscythe. I don't have Immortals myself, but I imagine that as long as the green rods fit the weapon frame you could do the same with them.
First glue one of the green rods into the finished front part of the gun. Then just put a tiniest spot of glue on the side of one of the green bars, fit the the other green bar so that the two are glued together and test how they fit into the weapon frame. As long as you use glue that takes a bit of time to dry (I use one which takes about 1 hour to go solid and 2 days to reach maximum strenght) you can fiddle about with them quite a lot and make sure they fit. Once you are sure that they are aligned correctly use a needle or a toothpick to put another small spot of glue between the front of the gun and the second green rod.
Oh, and do get a two sets of small pincers. They are godsent when dealing with small parts.
Last edited by Polaria; April 9th, 2010 at 14:02.
Revenant Moon Necrons: (W/L/D) 0/1/0 (6th edition: 13/2/2)(5th edition: 14/6/4)(3rd edition Codex: 16/4/7)
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I put the models together leaving the tips off. I then painted the model and painted the gun tips. I did this so when I glued the 2 rods in I could bend the upper and lower bars to better fit with the rods. Then finally I glued the gun tips on. You're right that some do not fit well and there was not much I could do because the bars we're just too thin to want to shave down.
One thing you could try if you just are not getting the fit you want is getting a piece of sandpaper and shaving down the sides of two green rods. You can then glue their flat spots together and get the clearing you want. It might lead you to having to shave off the back end as well for the perfect fit so hopefully it's not more trouble than it's worth.
Last edited by windowlicker; April 9th, 2010 at 15:24.
I was thinking the same as you for the Immortal. The body cries out to be painted separately anyway because of the large gun sitting in front of the body. It would make it overly difficult to paint the whole thing after it was fully assembled. I think I will try glueing the rods to the tip and then to the body of the gun after the pieces are painted it seems safer that way. The pieces do all fit it's just a little tight.
I'm just starting my Necron Army and I am buying one of each piece to assess the ease of assembly which may effect how I build my Army. I have to say I'm very disappointed in the build quality of the Elite pieces I have seen so far (not touched flayed ones yet) The fact that they are metal blisters is really annoying since there is very little room for play when building these and with the horribly small scale of these models it makes it really difficult to build them! I think my back and eyesight will give out before I even get a full army together!
GW models should come with a health warning, I'm sure someone could sue them for it!
Sorry for taking my time to respond this is the first I've been able to check.