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The Honor Guard count as an Ethereal's retinue, and so do not take up a Troops choice. They are not scoring units.
(though why you'd take an Ethereal to begin with is beyond me)
Actually, it's very unclear as to whether or not the unit is scoring.
The exact wording of the codex is this:I think the first part is very important, "chosen as a normal Fire Warrior team". So that sets the precedent that it is the exact same as a normal Fire Warrior unit, with several exceptions (which it lists). None of the exceptions say anything about scoring, because back in 4th when the codex was written, everything was scoring. However, since normal Fire Warriors are a scoring unit, I would argue that the Honour Guard is also a scoring unit because the codex doesn't say otherwise. Remember, scoring units don't necessarily have to be Troops (think sternguard + Pedro).Originally Posted by Codex: Tau Empire p.33The word "retinue" is never actually used, but the rules seem to imply that the Honour Guard acts as a retinue.Originally Posted by Illegal Carrot
This is yet another example of how poorly written the Tau codex is.
The best way to deal with this rules kerfuffle is to never take an Ethereal. Which is the smart thing to do.
ninjabackhand: point and click, again, really? even after i give you an military term "shock tactic" you still call it point and click.
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or in case you just want to have a fun game, and like to use an ethereal i suggest this:
make it a house rule with your friends, dont think he would mind (I wouldn't) if he is and both of you can't seem to convince each other: use the mighty dice. (1-3 is you are right, 4-6 he is right.)
first of all etherals are actually good its just like ork flash gitz, some player said they baid and it spreads like wild fire. I have won games due to reroll leaderships alone when i fail to contest and a reroll proves a contest and victory.. So i guess its not clear so ill assume my way i guess and talk it out.
No, they're pretty bad. They're easy to kill and when that happens the results can be really ugly.