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ok so i want 2 make some ork looted wagons, and i want them 2 be tournament standard, now i know theres no model for the looted wagon, which will let me go crazy, but im sure there must be some things i cant do, like make it super small or ridiculously huge. i really wana make one out of a dark ledar raider and one from a space marine drop pod. these are my main concerns
1. does it have 2 be a particular size?
2. if i want 2 have a hard top on it do i actually have 2 have it covered?
3. does it have 2 have wheels? even though its a tank and not a skimmer, can i still use a skimmer model and just count it as a normal ground tank?
4. anything else i need 2 know?
i use tau devilfish/hammer heads for my looted wagons i know a few people who use rhinos/chimeras/lemon russ
basicly write it up as you want it then look at all the 40k kits and find the ones you want to use to build the vehicle you want as to size no there is no limint on size just remeber the bigger it is the easier it is to shoot at
If you want it to be GW tournament-legal, it needs to be based on GW kits - I think the value they quote is 70%. You can't take a toy fire truck and a ton of plasticard and make it GW-legal, no matter HOW orky that might be.
There's no technical rule on how big it can be. I know at least one guy who uses a land raider base with an extra-large open-topped fighting platform on it. Plenty orky! But also quite huge. He drops his KFF-Mek in there and takes advantage of the additional radius something fierce. Keep in mind, though, that such a stunt can backfire - the best looted wagon is still only armor 11, and unreliable when it comes to keeping up with the boyz.
As far as the 'ard case being modeled, that's up to how much of a stickler your opponents / the tourney organizers are about WYSIWYG. If they won't let you get the Red Paint Job upgrade without the model being actually painted red, then you probably won't get the benefit of the doubt there either.
You can use a skimmer model. I've seen looted wave serpents, looted monoliths, even a looted valkyrie. It'll still count as a tank, not a skimmer.
Does that 70% rule apply to all conversions? I am doing some cyborks and using legs/wheels from another range.
Sorry to high jack.
As Avatar said it will always be a tank as thats what it is in the rules. I would keep things Rhino sized purly for the ability to hide behind things
Looted wagons, by definition were once a regular 40k vehicle from another army "liberated" by Orks and used, abused & "improved" by the local Mek. As such, it will look particularly fluffy if you use another 40k vehicle as the base for your conversion, then staple everything and the kitchen sink to it in the name of Orky ingenuity. tbh, WYSIWYG would pretty much determine if there was a hard-top or not but, since it's Orky, the definition of a hard top is extremely relaxed. I wouldn't expect it to be air-tight by any means.
@Daston: I'm sure that the literally enforceable rule means each model of any kind must be at least 70% GW dollars., erm, i mean parts. However, for all practical purposes, this can only realistically be applied to the visible part of the model. Even then, if the overall model looks reflective of the 40k universe, and you are prepared enough to be able to bluff a decent inventory of the constituent GW parts you "used" (think: that support part off an IG autocannon, added to the canopy from a Devilfish, stuck to half a claw from a Defiler, the cogged section from the old shokk attack gun, etc, et voila, cybork city ) then i'm fairly sure no-one will even think twice about the true source materials.
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