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I have been wondering in the DE's new Codex when my eye was caught by this caracter's page.
Well he is pretty good but seems to me overpriced what do u think?
It would be nice if you could mention battles with him and it's performance!
Last edited by MrRe-roll; February 9th, 2011 at 13:06.
not yet used him in a battle, but the way to get your point's worth is to throw him, and his Incubi Disciples, at an expensive squad and watch IC's melt before him. even better, pair him up with lelith and watch the dice knock off enemy heads as both can attack with (roughly) the same WS!
i like drazhar his move ability is nifty, i find that he is best thrown at a huge squad of greenskins, so he can teleport to wherever the nob is not! also he is quite the dandy vs dedicated transports, charge the front, go to the back, destroy it and make the squad inside E. disembark lol. i would only use him for fun though his points value is high and he is relatively easy to kill out of combat.
I could be wrong but i think people forget that when put with a unit of incubi The Draz works as a Klaivex with both special rules and he makes them fearless, top that off with how Hard-core he himself is, I think he is worth the points.
Besides that I have run him in only three games, 2 against nids and 1 orks, He never died and him and his inc boys took out a minimum of 3 units each game.
He's pretty much the S**t. lol
Yeah Drazhar is effectively a Klaivex, but the Klaivex and attendant upgrades are largely overpriced themselves, a trait which seems to have been passed on to him. He still suffers from PLorditis and is way overpriced in comparison to his abilities.
He is most certainly worth it, I did some rough mathhammering here and this pretty much mirrors my experience with using him in game.
Drazhar is a squad killer at heart and will absolutely blender units without power weapons - he is actually a hard counter to a seer council (he'll crush the farseer and then grind the warlocks down).
From my what i've seen people write him off without really using him or comparing him to vect and because vect is better, drazhar is crap (this isn't entirely true and vect has issues that drazhar doesn't care about).
Last time I used drazhar he turned 3 tactical squads and a captain to soup.
Last edited by The_Outsider; February 10th, 2011 at 16:18.
Refreshing news from the above posters. I personally haven't used him yet and thus voted by ignorance - so that should qualify my vote. The funny thing with polls, they never really reflect the reason why they vote like they do, its like you need to have two responses to each condition: one from someone who used him and one from someone who has not.
Everyone who has not used him and theoryhammered their "no" response while people who have used him say "yes". What about those who used him and didn't like him - wouldn't those carry more weight?
I guess I should take Drazhar for a spin and just see for myself.
"On a hunch, I melted them down and inhaled the fumes and read the dark eldar codex again, AND FOUND A BUNCH OF NEW RULES HIDDEN BEHIND THE OTHER WORDS..." [Gardeth on modelling & interpreting the DE Codex]
I love him but he cost too many points. Additionally his powers are as far reaching as Asdrubael (steal initiative) or Duke (poison and + 1 roll).
Plus while onslaught cannot generate infinite attacks, there is nothing stopping it stacking with riposte - thus it is possible to kill 2 models for every armour save of a 6 you make (however it is fairly unlikely, but i've seen it happen and it was devastating).
In theory if you joined another IC (more than likely an archon for the phantasm grenade launcher) to drazhar you can get around his only joining incubi reqiurement to give you a unit that are basically leg powered nukes.
Even not doing this, I like to run drazhar with 3 incubi in a venom and use them like you would any other assault unit. I played a game earlier today where he killed 30 guard veterans and a leman russ - here his darting strike was just plain cruel as it enabled him to avoid the powerfists that were lurking in the squads.
Drazhar is typically more durable than vect as if vect is actually using feel no pain then his shadowfield is dropped and is thus bait for any sort of S6 attack. I cannot knock his raw CC power but he really doesn't get the sort of usage of power from pain that drazhar and lelith do - two characters people often declare as rubbish.
Drazhar isn't amazing - he is worth his cost which is pretty much the definition of balanced. Personally I get absolutely fed up of the blatant stupidity floating around these days regarding DE, there has been a definite increase in people basing their opinions clearly of raw number crunching and forgetting that - at heart - DE are an army that functions best when using those things you simply cannot quantify on paper.
How do you factor in darting strike (for example) into things?
Last edited by The_Outsider; February 11th, 2011 at 00:21.