Note - Mods, please do no move this to the Army List section. This is more of an evaluation of some of the newer forgeworld eldar units as well as a mini-battle report.
All these releases of new eldar units from Forgeworld has got me curious...how good are these units? The Wasp Assault Walker, Warp Hunter and Hornet all look to be very good units, thought the Shadow Aspect Warriors not so much.
The Wasp Assault Walker, discussed in more detail in this thread here, provides eldar with a lot more firepower as well as outrageous mobility for walker. The Eldar Hornet appears to be a much, much better version of the Vyper and the Warp Hunter has a unique and powerful new weapon. IMO it is better than the both the Fire Prism and Falcon.
I am going to setup a proxy battle between an eldar army consisting of some of these new models against my ultra-shooty space wolves army. I will be using the eldar list and will ask my brother to use my space wolves as he has experience playing both with and against it.
This is what I am thinking about using at 2500pts:
Eldar List #1
Autarch - Fusion Gun - 80
Farseer - Guide, Runes of Warding, Singing Spear - 93
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Guardian Jetbikes - 1x Shuri-cannon - 76
3x Guardian Jetbikes - 66
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Total - 2495
Before I go on to the Space Wolves list, any thoughts and comments on this list?
I decided against going 3x3 War Walkers in the heavy slot because I felt it would not be a very balanced list then. Without bright lances, an all-walker list would have a hard time taking down units like land raiders or other heavily armoured vehicles even though it's got 3x5 fire dragons. Then when you add bright lances, their costs become exorbitant. The warp hunter, on the other hand has both good AT as well as decent anti-infantry, though it has to get up close to fry infantry.
All these releases of new eldar units from Forgeworld has got me curious...how good are these units? The Wasp Assault Walker, Warp Hunter and Hornet all look to be very good units, thought the Shadow Aspect Warriors not so much.
The Wasp Assault Walker, discussed in more detail in this thread here, provides eldar with a lot more firepower as well as outrageous mobility for walker. The Eldar Hornet appears to be a much, much better version of the Vyper and the Warp Hunter has a unique and powerful new weapon. IMO it is better than the both the Fire Prism and Falcon.
I am going to setup a proxy battle between an eldar army consisting of some of these new models against my ultra-shooty space wolves army. I will be using the eldar list and will ask my brother to use my space wolves as he has experience playing both with and against it.
This is what I am thinking about using at 2500pts:
Eldar List #1
Autarch - Fusion Gun - 80
Farseer - Guide, Runes of Warding, Singing Spear - 93
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent w/dual Shuri-cannons, Spirit Stones - 200
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Wasp Assault Walkers - 5x Scatter Lasers, 1x Shuri-cannon - 215
3x Guardian Jetbikes - 1x Shuri-cannon - 76
3x Guardian Jetbikes - 66
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Hornet - 2x EML's, Spirit Stones - 105
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Warp Hunter - Spirit Stones - 135
Total - 2495
Before I go on to the Space Wolves list, any thoughts and comments on this list?
I decided against going 3x3 War Walkers in the heavy slot because I felt it would not be a very balanced list then. Without bright lances, an all-walker list would have a hard time taking down units like land raiders or other heavily armoured vehicles even though it's got 3x5 fire dragons. Then when you add bright lances, their costs become exorbitant. The warp hunter, on the other hand has both good AT as well as decent anti-infantry, though it has to get up close to fry infantry.