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So I was wondering if we should start working on an up to date Tactica? Now by tactica I don't mean a unit breakdown that many people seem to make and then tack the word tactica onto.
I am talking about a compendium of articles detailing actual tactics versus different enemies and army types. Maybe even tactics relating to different army builds within our codex. I would like to create this, but there are some armies that arent represented very much if at all and I only play one type of DE list myself so I would need help with gathering information on the armies I cant play against and builds I dont use myself.
I agree here. We have a fairly good unit breakdown. I am however learning that we all play differently and we each have our own blind spots in tactics.
Well what would need to be covered,
Kabalite lists (shooty)
Wych lists (combat)
Gang lists (hellions and reavers)
Web way portal versions of the above
And we would need to cover tactics regarding main armies and types of armies so:
Space marines, and their different permietations
Imperial guard, the bane of alot of de
Orks and other swarm armies
Maybie a few other specific tactics for less popular armies.
That's a he'll of alot to write down tactically
But if we can do it it would be aN awesome feat
karantalsis already started a unit-by-unit tactica some time ago. He hasn't updated it for quite some time though, but I hope he will in the future. We could always start off where he stopped, since he pretty much covered Haemonculus and Archons.
Here's the link: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...t-quality.html
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Thats what I was referring to in my original post. A unit by unit breakdown isn't a tactica. A tactica actually refers to discussion of tactics. A unit breakdown can sometimes get into individual unit tactics, just as a tactica can sometimes delve into individual units. But overall a tactica should discuss tactics relating to an army as a whole, at least in my opinion it should.
This is a rough outling of a table of contents for such a tactica.
- General Tactics and Use of a Raider Rush army.
- General Tactics and Use of a Webway Portal army
- General Tactics and Use of a footslogging Army
(These are the three main army types for DE, that can obviously be used by different actual unit types. For example you could make a raider rush army with nothing but coven units, or nothing but wych cult units)
After discussing the tactics of our own types of army lists we could then start articles on tactics versus army types (horde, elite, mechanized, etc.), and tactics versus specific armies (such as grey knights, or tau)
Last edited by Phaeron Typhoon; June 19th, 2011 at 22:43.
So is there any interest in this? Would anyone like to help with any of the army type articles since I only have experience playing raider rush myself.
Maybe help with tactics versus enemy army types/specific armies?
I guess along those lines, does anyone think the rough outline I sketched out in my previous post is ok?
I think this is interesting as I too do not want a unit by unit breakdown, tactics and strategies is nice for a change.
As for contribution to the tactica, I like the idea of people chiming in on their most preferred list - once you get one guy giving us 25 ways from 25 lists I begin to wonder if they know what they are talking about.
Just wondering if the tactica would be split into "Rush" or "WWP"?
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I think rush and WWP lists are all well and good but a general tactica would be nice. There are quite a few basic strategic things that both of these lists benefit from. Some are obvious like use of cover. But others can be advanced like target dispersion, and how to get the max from our mobility to divide armies.
I volunteer for a general strategy section.
I also think we should cover the themed list like wych cult and coven.
Specific vs. Sections for armies.
Also sections for DE in expansions like apocalypse.
Seems like a daunting task as (happily) the DE are no longer easily limited to a few strategies. Instead of taking on entire army types, maybe add a section into the unit breakdowns as to how the unit fits into different sorts of list AND where they do not fit.
Well, since everyone thinks this is a good idea but no one is doing it, I started today. My table of contents reads;
2. Unit breakdown and popular builds (I know we have a unit breakdown but it should be in the same place as the rest of the tactica so do this as well. Popular builds are things like 4 trueborn with 4 blasters in a venom or 3 trueborn with 2 dark lances.)
3. Basic general tactics
4. Advanced general tactics
5. List types (vehicle rush, webway, themed)
6. Versus sections (these will be a long time coming)
Who wants what else?